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    Glyphs also take up one-third the space of ink. If the ink stockpiling reaches an unmanageable level, the risk of losing glyphs may be worth taking if it frees up two-thirds of your bank space for more ink or glyphs.

    (For those worried about numbers, I stockpiled 37,000 glyphs with 12,000 ink left over for Glyphmas. My ink stockpile for MoP is already well past those numbers. You can never have too much ink.)

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    Without taking ANY sales data in to account, and only look at the materials needed to craft glyphs you get this distribution you can use to trade inks with


    (bassed on mop.wowhead.com data from 21st of June 2012)

    It's almost the same distribution as I used back in 4.0.

    Hole point is just to giv you an idea of what inks you should have in stock. As you can see if you have all your inks in Blackfallow Ink the day they remove the ink trader its pretty sad as we only have 1 glyph in the game, which uses that ink.

    Personally i still have a pretty large amount of ink already stocked up, as i left the Glyphmarket for several months. Theres absolutely no challange in this market once your calculations and addons are setup (that the fun part). After that I just felt reduced to a "push that button a million times" monkey.

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    Will you buy your inks just from the MoP list, and precraft every MoP glyph? The problem I see with that, is that are plenty of glyphs there that are easily trainable, and such, have a usual very low price on market. I took a vacation on the whole wotlk period, so I missed glyphmas and all that, but.. Won't be better to just do a list or the glyphs trained by research + books, remove the soon to be faded glyphs from there, and buy the inks thinking mostly on those? Or will you experienced glyphers just precraft every single mop glyph, regardless of it being easily trainable? (I take into account that unprepared inscriptionist won't have ink to pose a thread, but still there will be people leveling inscription and putting tons of those glyph for cheap)
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    I've never really been bothered to enter the glyph market, I've been fine with minimum work selling vanity items and enchanting scrolls.
    This post might've changed my mind though! Work super hard for some time, sit back and relax for weeks selling all your stocked up glyphs?

    Just my style!

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    Nice writeup, Kath. And thanks for the percentage breakdown of inks, Meyer. +rep to both of you! ^.^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
    SMALL chance you lose it all. I'm not entirely clear on the programming that goes on during a patch, but i'm not completely ruling out blizz assigning all glyphs a [Charred Glyph] ID and THEN reassigning new glyphs, old glyph IDs. I doubt this will happen...but its been bugging me...
    I'd like to add to this paranoia the theoretical - and far fetched - possibility the inks themselves to be reset. Even if the old inks exist, they can in theory reset the market in whole by making all inks grey and then assigning new IDs to replacements that have to be rebought. The same can happen to herbs themselves.

    This is extremely far fetched and I wouldn't bet on it at all. But I mention it just for the sake of completism. It's a game and in theory they can do it.

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    Great guide, and thanks for the breakdown @Meyer . I'm in the camp of stockpiling as many glyphs as possible, so I don't have to even think about creating glyphs for profit in that first month of the new expansion. There are so many other things I'm looking forward to doing, there won't be much downtime for restocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathroman View Post
    but on the plus side...everyone will need to learn glyphs all over again
    Will they? I haven't heard one way or another how significantly the glyph system is changing. Except for the removal of primes, is anything else changing in the glyph pane?

    IIRC, when Cata hit, my characters still all the glyphs that they had active pane the moment patch 4.0.2 launched, even if the glyph had been changed to something completely different. I'm wondering if it will be the same with 5.0.1; everyone will still know all the glyph IDs they had already. What have folks seen then they copied an 85 over from live servers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgear View Post
    Will they? I haven't heard one way or another how significantly the glyph system is changing. Except for the removal of primes, is anything else changing in the glyph pane?

    IIRC, when Cata hit, my characters still all the glyphs that they had active pane the moment patch 4.0.2 launched, even if the glyph had been changed to something completely different. I'm wondering if it will be the same with 5.0.1; everyone will still know all the glyph IDs they had already. What have folks seen then they copied an 85 over from live servers?

    No, I don't think they ACTUALLY will. I was speaking to a hypothetical situation in which Blizzard stymied scribes across the board by replaced all existing glyphs with brand new ones needing to be learned. Fortunately, this doesn't appear to be the way things are shaping up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
    There is another train of thought (@Stede brought it up i believe) that suggests NOT pre-crafting to avoid any possibility of losing stock when 4.4 rolls around (i.e not having 40 glyphs turn into [Charred Glyph])

    I think both ways have pros and cons.
    Pre Crafting
    Pros
    Won't have to afk craft everything on patch day, which allows you to:
    Post immediately
    Ignore most technical issues (post and log)
    Set the price (to an extent)

    Cons
    May lose a stack or two
    SMALL chance you lose it all. I'm not entirely clear on the programming that goes on during a patch, but i'm not completely ruling out blizz assigning all glyphs a [Charred Glyph] ID and THEN reassigning new glyphs, old glyph IDs. I doubt this will happen...but its been bugging me...

    Post-Crafting
    Pros
    No chance of losing any money
    Will have the same or more stock then an equal pre-crafter

    Cons
    Prices will be set (to an extend, they will still be very volatile and prone to manipulation) upon market (re)entry
    Couple hours of CKS to get your stock completely ready
    Sales more affected by technical issues

    Although the technical issues aren't a big concern. If the server goes down, no ones buying stuff anyway.

    However the important thing to note is if you are stockpiling correctly (i.e doing what @Kathroman says) the difference in profits from these to methods will probably be trivial.
    Food for thought
    An additional pro to the ink stockpile is better adaptability to the new monk glyphs. Assuming there are some learned from a trainer, and spread through out the ink levels, I'm convinced that an ink stockpile is a better way to go.

    If anything I'm stockpiling the MINOR glyphs... things that most people don't have now because they suck, but are shaping up to be fun and flavorful come mists. Going for a full stack of each atm and i don't even SELL glyphs... stocking up just so i can compete in what i expect to be a HUGE new market opening for the first couple weeks of mists

 

 
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