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    4.3 PTR - Maelstrom Shatter

    So, the new patch has hit the test realms. I happened to run into this while looking through the new data on wowhead:

    Maelstrom Shatter - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Looks like we will be able to shatter [Maelstrom Crystal]s into [Heavenly Shard]s.

    At 2 heavenly shards per maelstrom crystal ratio that we will probably see the price of heavenly shards decrease because of the increased supply.
    Last edited by Nevah; September 27th, 2011 at 07:08 PM.

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    This looks pretty nice. Finally a use for all those Maelstrom Crystals! Good that i bought 400 of them for 40g each (avg of 60g on my server).

    But let's see what consequences this has:

    1. Price of Maelstrom Crystals will rise a bit, and the ratio of MC : HS will be ~1.6 : 1. Why 1.6? Shouldn't it be 2:1? No! Think of it: Many ppl will only think of one-step-manufacturing: Buying MC => Shattering them => Selling HS. So they only see the profit from the Shattering (whereas we see the next step: getting mats for scrolls!). And if you buy MC for let's say 50g while HS are at 90g, you'd make 10g profit only - i don't think ppl will risk THAT.

    2. The profit of [Stormforged Shoulders] will need to be recalculated, depending on MC prices: 16*Elementium Ore + 8 Obsidium Ore = 1 HS (or 1.3 if i remember right with the Guild perk), whereas 1 MC = 2 HS ==>
    - Without Guild perk: 16*EO + 8*OO = 1/2 * MC
    - With Guild perk: 16*EO + 8*OO = 1/2 * MC * 1.3

    3. Since MC become more attractive for shattering, there will be less available for Enchanting i guess
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    3. Since MC become more attractive for shattering, there will be less available for Enchanting i guess
    *looking at the 42 stacks of MC in her bank*

    I surely do hope so, Sir!

    While having 3 tabs of dust and 2 tabs of essences banked in from the shuffle , I guess I will rather continue to make scrolls with the MCs I snatched up during time for 39 - 49g while hoping that prices will rise which means the prices of the scrolls will, too. Having enough shards (produced at ~ 25 - 30g each) too, the MCs should last me a while =^.^=

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    I'm planning on stocking up on MCs too. The bad thing about the other enchanting mats: They move so fast at good prices RIGHT NOW that i don't want to stockpile them. Not yet at least. I got two tabs full of dust (as side-product which i can't really sell with profit), but Essences + Shards sell with over 100% RoI atm.
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    Shards will be a tough one, along with the crystals. I can definitely see shards dropping price pretty heavily, potentially half or more. The question is what will happen with MC prices.

    Something to think about... a lot of players will be switching to the new raid instance. That means the MC farm fest that Firelands is right now will decrease considerably, which could very likely decrease the supply of MCs on the market for a few weeks or few months even, at least. Some people will still be raiding Firelands, but those people will potentially be hitting Heroic mode and not Normal mode. That gear will more often get used than sharded, again for at least a few weeks or months. That too decreases the supply of MCs.

    So, could we potentially see, at least at the start, a dramatic spike in MC prices?

    To begin with, the floor pricing of MCs will pretty much be set by the pricing of Heavenly Shards. IF a MC is selling for less than 2x HS, then it's easy profit. More likely though, MCs will start to see for a premium over 2xHS. Anything under that price and it will get bought to shatter, leaving only those at or higher than 2xHS. With a decrease in supply of MC and an increase in demand of MC for new gear enchants, it should push MCs up a decent bit, at least early in 4.3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanateros View Post
    Price of Maelstrom Crystals will rise a bit, and the ratio of MC : HS will be ~1.6 : 1. Why 1.6? Shouldn't it be 2:1? No! Think of it: Many ppl will only think of one-step-manufacturing: Buying MC => Shattering them => Selling HS. So they only see the profit from the Shattering (whereas we see the next step: getting mats for scrolls!). And if you buy MC for let's say 50g while HS are at 90g, you'd make 10g profit only - i don't think ppl will risk THAT.
    One of us is missing something or just plain wrong. 50g MC shatters into two 90g HS in this case, for a 130g profit. Of course, in this case, either the MC or HS price is unmaintainable.

    On an only semi-related note, on my sever, MC go for a bit more than HS most of the time, but not always.

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    I have over 1000 MCs that I bought at 90g or less and will continue to stockpile.

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    The problem I'm running into at the moment is that MCs are at 180g each right now and HCs are at 75g each. I do see an increase in the price of MCs but I don't think I'll see too much of a change from current prices.

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    I think an item to consider is if the new instances award 140 or 70 VP. I'm guessing 140vp per, so people are still going to be running them even after they've gotten all their drops. I don't think the drought on MC's will last long (1-2 months depending on server progression).
    I'm definitely stockpiling MCs heavily now, mostly so I don't run low during this potential drought and I can exploit it for higher returns on scrolls.

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    Last edited by bellavacca; September 30th, 2011 at 07:27 AM.

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    It appears that all HCs are going to award 150 VP after patch 4.3. It sounds like the new ones are quick and not too challenging (as things stand on the PTR), if not for that fact you could potentially see a resurgence in popularity for the original Cata HCs as a faster way to get your VP.

 

 
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