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    Ethereal Shard stockpiling

    Mostly I'm curious because I was making a new macro and I noticed one of my old macros from cataclysm where I was advertising to buy Heavenly Shards for 100g a piece, right now Ethereal Shards go for 55-60g each on my server. The difference in price struck me as odd seeing as generally prices go up with expansions, barring different drop circumstances of course. I don't have much experience with stockpiling for long-term investments so I'm not sure if my logic here is valid but it seems like as an expansion progresses there are fewer and fewer blue quality drops, due to later 5 mans dropping epics.

    If this is the case it stands to reason that the prices of shards would also go up, so is it worth stockpiling these for a year down the road? Blizzard is already changing up the status quo from the last 2 expansions by not (or possibly not? I guess this isn't certain yet either) offering catch up gear with the new raid teir so it's possible that future 5 mans will drop rares instead of epics.

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    This expansion is a bit different in a couple ways. Cata had 5 mans released later in the patch cycles with the Hour of Twilight and the ZA/ZG fiasco. These provided an extreme shortcut where Blue gear heroic dungeons were just skipped over. This is not and will not be the case as it is today. Also, With the ability to convert up and down across the mat spectrum, I would be very leary of stockpiling MOP enchanting mats. Those wiser than I may disagree and I hope they arrive just in time to give you better advice than I. Some of the top minds on this site are the reason I am out of gold making now.

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    I would also add, that at least part of my shuffle is creating tons of blue itm lvl 450 rings and necks, which also DE into those shards. You wouldn't be able to stock up all the crystals I produce
    I fail to see the source of your certainty.

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    You both bring up very good points that I hadn't considered, hence why I asked here. Good thing I have only been musing about it and haven't actually started to stockpile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazi View Post
    Blizzard is already changing up the status quo from the last 2 expansions by not (or possibly not? I guess this isn't certain yet either) offering catch up gear with the new raid teir so it's possible that future 5 mans will drop rares instead of epics.
    My interpretation of the messages from blues is that it will be unlikely that Blizzard will create new 5-man dungeons with the intent to offer "catch up gear." Ghostcrawler has already stated that the LFR can and should be used for this purpose. If they ever did add more 5-mans, I seriously doubt that they will drop gear that will disenchant into shards rather than crystals.

    All that said, my expectation is that overall both Sha Crystal and Ethereal Shard production from DEing gear drops in dungeons and raids will be lower than in past expansions. However, the new ability to upconvert the other enchanting materials into these items should keep their costs in check and is the primary reason why particularly Crystal prices are not still through the roof.

    It's unlikely you'll lose money buying up stuff now to sell for 5.2 or 5.3. People will still be able to mass produce shards via JC, BS, LW and Tailoring 450 gear (whatever happens to be the cheapest at the moment) and as long as the price for those base materials (cloth, ore, leather) stays relatively stable, so will the production costs for a shard.

    Personally, I'd stick to stockpiling crystals as those have somewhat of a limiting factor in production via the daily CD. Shards can be mass produced at a moments notice.


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    See ^^^^ Smart guy arrived. I knew it would occur.

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    Herp! Derp!
    Last edited by Silound; January 7th, 2013 at 11:00 AM. Reason: I think I caught a case of the stupids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtesDad View Post
    However, the new ability to upconvert the other enchanting materials into these items should keep their costs in check and is the primary reason why particularly Crystal prices are not still through the roof.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
    Also, With the ability to convert up and down across the mat spectrum
    Yep not mentioned at all.


    I will ammend this with a blanket apology. Never type posts under the effects of new "happy" pills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtesDad View Post
    My interpretation of the messages from blues is that it will be unlikely that Blizzard will create new 5-man dungeons with the intent to offer "catch up gear." Ghostcrawler has already stated that the LFR can and should be used for this purpose. If they ever did add more 5-mans, I seriously doubt that they will drop gear that will disenchant into shards rather than crystals.

    Keep in mind that blizz stated that there will be no new 5 mans in 5.2, just a raid and scenarios(<--maybe). This cuts down severely on the potential value of shards as most of the spikes in value come from people chain running 5 mans for "catch up gear" when new ones come out.

    If MoP is like cata in terms of the number of raids, I expect 5.2 to be a raid patch, 5.3 to be a potential 5 man/daily/scenario patch and 5.4 to be the raid on Org.

    Thats only 1 patch where shards spike for 1-2 weeks, not very much room for good RoI imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
    Yep not mentioned at all.


    I will ammend this with a blanket apology. Never type posts under the effects of new "happy" pills.
    Bwahaha, you know what's sad about that is that I typed that post when there were NO replies, then left my computer for a meeting, came back, and just clicked submit. Didn't even bother to re-check to see if any replies were added.

    Trust me, I deserved that one

 

 

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