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    Hm... well, there would be an option. Create a trial account, invite that trial into your banking guild and give the other one your accountname + password. It's not really a nice solution, but better than nothing. Trading them the mats is no solution, since you can only trade 6 stacks per trade. i would definitely charge a higher fee if he wants to do it THAT way.
    The other way would be: Send him all the stuff via ingame mail. Bad thing is: Maybe you send him too much of an item and he just keeps it (could also happen if you invite him into your guild, but that way it would be easier for him to just put it back).
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenzali View Post
    Is there any other way to actually "sell" the kit other than inviting them to a guild? What if they are wanting the profession on their main and don't want to lose their current guild reputation?

    I suppose I could ask them to pay up-front via trade, but they would have to wait for all the materials to come through the mail. Anyone have any better ideas?
    As said in step one of the guide... They need a guildless alt. Everyone can make an alt. Then this alt takes the mats, mails them to the main character, done.

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    I sold an alchemy kit last weekend using: WoW Alchemy Guide 1 - 525 | Alchemy Leveling Guide

    I tweaked the guide for my server (which has a serious shortage of ) and put it all in excel and made it look pretty: http://i.imgur.com/lPydw.png

    Posting here in case somebody finds it useful.

    Note that it requires two vendor-bought recipes that I include with the kit: and both of which are sold by a vendor in the northern part of gadgetzan ([npc]5594[/npc]). Hopefully you aren't a bloodsail admiral on two characters like me...
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    I had this idea 2 weeks ago, then happened to come upon this thread just 4 days afterward! It gave me everything I needed to do to get started save for the materials and gold haha...So now I'm in this business full time, I've even got people set up to build particular kits for me, and I just do the selling! It is imperitive that you price your kits right, or you will be spinning your tires in the mud so to speak. My very first customer found my realm forum thread, so this was a VERY good idea and I entice people to post on there with the promise of a free razormaw hatchling cause I can farm like 3-4 of those in a single day and I make far more gold with these kits than by selling those...so really no major loss and I see the review they post as much more valuable. I'm selling 1-2 sometimes 3 in a single day and I'm making gold hand over fist...I can barely keep up with all the orders. I do have one question...how do you handle those few individuals who DON'T follow the guide and waste materials? Especially when you know it and they deny it? Do you STILL guarantee their kit? I had a fella like this and he ate into all my profit because he didn't follow the guide. Oh and one last thing, I'm purchasing a leveled guild with the 10% perk to profession leveling...just an added bonus and helps me to guarantee my kits level them to the max. Its a big purchase, but one that I think will help to pay out in the end...and I plan to sell these kits for a long time.

  5. #25
    Well I made and sold my first one of these today, have bought nearly 2 kits worth of herbs for around 11k including [Primal Might] * 8 for transmute mastery and sold one very easily for 9k so an easy 7k profit (plus all my surplus mats, emergency use glyphs). Having a lot of demand for other prof kits and so might move into those soon depending on supply and demand.

    edit: fail maths is fail!

  6. #26
    Tried this on my server with Alchemy, sadly without any success. I am on a backwater RP server, and the population of the faction I tried this on is about 8k characters according to Warcraftrealms.

    I checked herb availability for a bit before going ahead with it, and then spent about a week buying herbs below Auctioneer's market price when possible.
    Never found any Goldthorn or any WOTLK herbs on the AH, so I figured that was a great argument to use as well when trying to sell my kit.

    Went to farm the remaining herbs (my main is Herb/Alch so I could easily off the guaranteed 525 as well), created a banking guild and arranged all herbs nicely, made a realm forum post and started barking. I asked 10k initially. About half of the whisps I got were price checks, some were just curious on what an alchemy kit is, and some were to gauge if I was a goldspammer or not. If I responded with the price, I usually didn't get any response at all, but when I did I got about 60% people laughing at my price and about 40% telling me I got a great idea and a decent price.

    After a few days of barking without so much as one prospective buyer, I decided to alter my approach a bit. Since my bank alt was a goblin in a fancy costume, I spiced up the barks RP-style, and also lowered my price to 8k. I barked for about a week, when I logged on and right before I logged off, so roughly between 18:00-19:00 and 23:00-0:00 consistently on a daily basis. Nothing. More price-gauging, more "lol you can easily farm the herbs yourself noob", some people saying it's a great idea. No interest in actually buying the thing, though.

    I wonder if perhaps the low pop of my server means people are more likely to be self-reliant?

  7. #27
    Gotta say ive sold a few Alchemy kits before, but never had done in such an organised way as you set out in this guide! So bravo and thanks this will make life alot easier!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotorion View Post
    Tried this on my server with Alchemy, sadly without any success. I am on a backwater RP server, and the population of the faction I tried this on is about 8k characters according to Warcraftrealms.

    I checked herb availability for a bit before going ahead with it, and then spent about a week buying herbs below Auctioneer's market price when possible.
    Never found any Goldthorn or any WOTLK herbs on the AH, so I figured that was a great argument to use as well when trying to sell my kit.

    Went to farm the remaining herbs (my main is Herb/Alch so I could easily off the guaranteed 525 as well), created a banking guild and arranged all herbs nicely, made a realm forum post and started barking. I asked 10k initially. About half of the whisps I got were price checks, some were just curious on what an alchemy kit is, and some were to gauge if I was a goldspammer or not. If I responded with the price, I usually didn't get any response at all, but when I did I got about 60% people laughing at my price and about 40% telling me I got a great idea and a decent price.

    After a few days of barking without so much as one prospective buyer, I decided to alter my approach a bit. Since my bank alt was a goblin in a fancy costume, I spiced up the barks RP-style, and also lowered my price to 8k. I barked for about a week, when I logged on and right before I logged off, so roughly between 18:00-19:00 and 23:00-0:00 consistently on a daily basis. Nothing. More price-gauging, more "lol you can easily farm the herbs yourself noob", some people saying it's a great idea. No interest in actually buying the thing, though.

    I wonder if perhaps the low pop of my server means people are more likely to be self-reliant?
    Population could have something to do with it, but it would be in terms of demand, not ability to farm. I sell 1-2 kits per week. This is an average. Sometimes I will bark for a week and sell NONE, and then next week I will sell 4.

    One suggestion I could offer it figure out where the chokepoints are, and dry up the supply in the AH. The other factor could be that it's Alchemy. Most of my business comes from JC. Part of the reason may be that with Alchemy, it's all about Herbs....herbs..herbs...and more herbs. Not until the very end of the process are some gems and such introduced. Whereas with JC, there are tons of "off" mats needed - Heavy Stone, Solid Stone, Essences, expensive "prospected" gems which you can't really farm directly. You can farm the ore - but then need to prospect to GET the gems...which requires a JC!

    You will *always* get tire kickers, and people hassling you about the price. My theory is that all the complaining in Trade is FREE advertising! I have macros setup to respond to questions (and lately started using NuttyRecruit to auto-respond!), and one of them is a simple explanation that the cost of the kit is not only the value of the mats...it's the TIME to farm them, it's the SORT order of the bank tab, it's the GUARANTEE that if they are missing a mat, I give it to them, free. The smart people will understand, and eventually buy one from you....word will spread....and your empire will be formed!

    Keep in mind, creating these leveling kits is not a "get rich quick" method for building wealth. It's something I do "on the side" to make extra gold. A majority of my wealth was earned using the many other means on these forums (Shuffling, pets, epic flipping, crafting, farming, etc). The kit selling concept helps give me a purpose, adds extra gold for sure, and adds some fun to the whole process.
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    Oh, yes, of course - I wasn't looking for a "get rich quick" method, just wanted to give this a shot since it sounded like an interesting concept,
    and was trying to understand why it didn't seem to be working out. But perhaps I was overthinking things

    Ironically, a bit after my post here I got a request on my realm post to organise it on Alliance side

  10. #30
    This is something I've long thought about doing and mentioned to friends, but never figured out a way to organize and actually do it. Thank you so much for the guide. I think I might give this a go with a JC kit and see where I end up!

 

 

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