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    Great guide, thank you for it. Two questions.

    1. How have you set your "Crafting Options" -> "Price / Inventory Settings", specially interested in the "Get Mat Prices From" and "Get Craft Prices From"

    2. I have been using the EU-Realm edition of the TUJ addon for few months now and just tried to download the GE version shown here in the guide. However I don't get any of the options shown in the guide (regarding GE) so my question is should I keep trying to figure out what the problem is or just use the realm edition for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shopro View Post
    Great guide, thank you for it. Two questions.

    1. How have you set your "Crafting Options" -> "Price / Inventory Settings", specially interested in the "Get Mat Prices From" and "Get Craft Prices From"

    2. I have been using the EU-Realm edition of the TUJ addon for few months now and just tried to download the GE version shown here in the guide. However I don't get any of the options shown in the guide (regarding GE) so my question is should I keep trying to figure out what the problem is or just use the realm edition for it.
    I have crafting material prices set to use TSM auction db market value. Do you have the release version of TSM? The latest version (not yet released to the general public) is the only version that supports the General Edition of TSM.

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    another reason im REALLY ***** loking forward to the new release OMG!!!

    Thanks for the nice writeup Reverb, currently juggling mainly Enchanting scrolls and even tho its working out pretty damn well this will aid in my quest to optimize it even more!
    ~ Blitzed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzed View Post
    another reason im REALLY ***** loking forward to the new release OMG!!!

    Thanks for the nice writeup Reverb, currently juggling mainly Enchanting scrolls and even tho its working out pretty damn well this will aid in my quest to optimize it even more!
    The reset scan feature and TUJ general edition support are game changers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverb View Post
    I have crafting material prices set to use TSM auction db market value. Do you have the release version of TSM? The latest version (not yet released to the general public) is the only version that supports the General Edition of TSM.
    That is the reason why I can't use it, thanks for clearing that out. I honestly thought I failed at a simple addon installation.

    The biggest problem I've had with setting crafting/material cost to use TSM Auction DB is the missing price information on about 20% of the materials which results in to threshold of 0 and no posts are posted.

    Also having threshold as % crafting cost results into fallback being lower using this guide but it must be just few items I have since most work correctly.
    Last edited by Shopro; January 9th, 2012 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shopro View Post
    That is the reason why I can't use it, thanks for clearing that out. I honestly thought I failed at a simple addon installation.

    The biggest problem I've had with setting crafting/material cost to use TSM Auction DB is the missing price information on about 20% of the materials which results in to threshold of 0 and no posts are posted.

    Also having threshold as % crafting cost results into fallback being lower using this guide but it must be just few items I have since most work correctly.
    Any of the sources for material prices would work in the list I have available with having the undermine journal realm edition, the undermine journal general edition, or auctionator database.



    I would probably used the undermine journal realm edition market average as it has a 2 week history so should avoid being susceptible to short term material droughts. Note: When you set up the Category thresholds, you would still use the crafting cost setting.

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    Thank you again, perfectly answered. One last thing I thought about asking is how to deal with price poisoning, I suppose it's called price poisoning or something. In here for example the "Enchant Boots - Stamina" has the Market Value as ? and Profit as ? when using AuctionDB - Min Buyout as Craft Price, however someone has in the past posted this same enchant for up to 6800g and as we all know it won't sell. But with this setup it gets crafted and posted with that avg buyout that is just too high. How would one overcome this situation. Thank you again for all the help.WoW.jpg

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    When you use Min Buyout it only looks at the items currently on the Auction House. That's why I prefer to use market value or market median for crafting and fallback prices. With either the undermine journal or tsm auction db as the pricing sources a two weeks worth of data is included, rather than just that one particular snapshot of prices when you did a get all scan. Say that abyss crystals were up for 10,000g when you did a get all scan and you were using TSM's min prices, if that was the only auction up it would be included in the 20% of supply used for calculations and the crafting addon would perceive the production cost of being over 10,000g on any item that used Abyss Crystals. If you use the market average as long as that price poisoning was not present for that entire duration the effect of that 10,000g data point would be much less significant. In the event that the material price data is still insanely erratic, put the material price as your actual cost (if you manufacture it somehow) rather than what is shown on the AH. For example, Crusader Orbs were like 100g on my faction's AH, but I got them cross faction for 20g, so I put my material cost for crusader orbs at 20g rather than have it be at 100g if I just followed my faction's pricing data.

    @Shopro, I added a section in the guide about how to deal with price poisoning.

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    Great, thanks a lot for including the price poisoning, makes a lot more sense seeing it in screenshots etc.

    There is a typo in the guide about Cosmic Essence.

    Typo:
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    ss1@34055,34056$armor/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200;weapon/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200@
    Should be:
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    s1@34055,34056$armor/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200;weapon/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200@

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