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    Top sellers

    Hello Erorus,

    I have a request for the top sellers list.
    If I'm correct, this list is compiled by whom has the highest market value.
    This total number of gold has to have a value to show up somewhere.
    Would it be possible to see what the total value of someones stock is?
    Maybe the total stock value based on regional average prices and the total value based on the price asked by seller?
    If not for everyone, perhaps for paid subscriptions?

    Like to hear from you!

    Ferdinious

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    Not a bad idea. I'll probably add it to the seller page.

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    was about to suggest this then thought it was not worth the hassle to try to convince Erorus, now I can't wait to see this implemented :P

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    This is done. Here's what the fields mean:

    sellerstats.png

    All numbers include both item and pet auctions.
    When I say "this auction house", I mean all the auctions posted on this realm (and connected realms).

    This seller has 353 auctions posted right now. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 18th in highest number of auctions currently posted.

    The sum of all the buyouts (plus bids on auctions with no buyout set) for this seller's current auctions is 8,322,667g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total asking price.

    The sum total of this auction house's market price for all the items & pets (multiplied by auction quantity) currently posted by this seller is 8,259,552g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total market price.

    The sum total of this region's median market price for all the items & pets (multiplied by auction quantity) currently posted by this seller is 3,672,293g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total region price.

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    The "top sellers" list on the front page uses the same rank as the region price rank. (Well, almost. Instead of ranking strictly by region price, it uses the lesser price of (region price, auction buyout) in the summation. Often this just means region price anyway.)

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    incredible, thank you. players should know about this.

    I was wondering what do you think about inflated prices for very low quantity items ?
    since there's a ranking, people could want to get higher and trick this by getting items not listed at all on the region and list it for very high, which would cause tuj to value it millions more than what it should.
    I was thinking, if you care about those pricings, about giving some kind of "weight" to prices if the region quantity is under 10. past 10 it acts as usual, but under it could be different, perhaps no pricing, because to have a region price you need data, or the price doesn't mean anything in my opinion.

    what's your view ?
    Last edited by Cael; September 9th, 2017 at 04:07 PM.

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    Thank you very much for adding this! And so quick!
    Exactly what I had in mind, now I can see how far number 2 is behind me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    I was wondering what do you think about inflated prices for very low quantity items ?
    since there's a ranking, people could want to get higher and trick this...
    These seller ranks are so far removed from anything that matters, that I'm not concerned if people try to game the ranks. I only show these ranks because people seem to ask about them all the time, even though they don't really mean much.

    If someone manages to get ranked considerably higher than other legit sellers, that doesn't make them any more gold. It doesn't help them "win" at WoW. It doesn't do anything. It's a number on a website. Scheming for bragging rights on these seller rank lists is quite petty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erorus View Post
    These seller ranks are so far removed from anything that matters, that I'm not concerned if people try to game the ranks.

    If someone manages to get ranked considerably higher than other legit sellers, that doesn't make them any more gold. It doesn't help them "win" at WoW. It doesn't do anything. It's a number on a website. Scheming for bragging rights on these seller rank lists is quite petty.
    I think your ranking can really be interesting for those who are competitive by nature, but in my opinion the problem with low quantity items is not about a ranking, this thread was more an occasion to point a problem

    the problem is more about providing prices for some items with not enough data to make it accurate. region market is a way to get more consolidated prices than realm prices, but there's not much yet to make sure region prices always have enough data. I believe it's a problem that tuj and tsm should address; the only way for players to know that an item have enough data to be accurate is to open their browser, go to TUJ and check the region count. a % of items don't have accurate pricings, when playing the AH there's currently no way to know if an item has enough data so we could decently trust the source price.

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    It sounds to me like you're using addons to price and post your inventory, and that's where your concern comes from. TUJ is primarily a web-based tool, so I don't have much advice in the way of making addons more helpful.

    However, as far as the TUJ addon is concerned, it includes a "last seen" line with how many days since the item was seen on that realm, to clue you in to hit the website for more info.

    The TUJ addon also tells you the 3-day mean, 14-day mean, and 14-day standard deviation, along with the region median, region mean, and region standard deviation, all to help you determine if the price has closed in on a small range or is still all over the place.

    The TUJ addon helps as a starting point for pricing, but if you have some very rare or high-value item, you're encouraged to visit the TUJ website for all the info.

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    Love this kind of stuff, NUMBERS! I compared the "number 1" overall seller from the main page with me (number 2).

    Though is total value is lot higher he spends at least 5 times as much posting (not 100% sure if he cancels and reposts) and his average value is much lower than me.

    Posted about this guy before, I'm 99% he used to (semi-afk) snipe bot or is just really dumb. I sold him tonnes of items that have a high market / region price e.g. vendor pets or crafted bracers that no one ever buys that he instantly sniped as I posted, to flood his inventory and increase his posting times.
    I mean, what sane person would list so many of the same item, haha.

    Again thanks, keep up the good work.
    Live to win.

 

 

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