Thread: thief/no thief?

I operate on the assumption that every TCG mount I see is a dupe.

I woulda bought it, tbh. I've bought several this way.

Originally Posted by Diablous

I operate on the assumption that every TCG mount I see is a dupe.

I woulda bought it, tbh. I've bought several this way.

This ^

With all the dupes floating around there is no way you'll ever be 100% certain it's completely legit unless you get the loot card yourself or buy the card itself somewhere.

Well thanks for hte answers guys, i wrote a ticket about this thing , here is the answer:

"In many cases certain items absolutely are being acquire through exploitative means but that is not the same as "duping". These items are often obtained through compromised accounts.

Though in some cases a person may need to acquire gold quickly or are otherwise clearing inventory so they will sell at a cheaper rate. Though if a deal is "too good to be true" as it often is.

If you purchase an item that later is found to be obtained during a compromise the items/funds may be retrieved but it should not otherwise negatively impact your account. Meaning, if you were not complacent in violating our policies it shouldn't adversely impact you except that you may have any items/funds removed during the course of the investigation.

When submitting a report it’s important to use this system as it will give us the clearest picture of the situation. These reports will go directly to a specialist who will investigate it thoroughly."

It seems a lot of blabla to me

So is there any chance that Blizz will take my mount away from me if they realize it was duplicated, and don't give my money back? Somewhere (don't remember where) i have read something like they can take your duped item away even if you didn't know about the duping. So buy instead in AH or something like this.
Or Blizz won't do that and next time similar happens I need to trust the TradeSystem and buy it via trade and be happy whether it's duped or not?

(sorry if my english is hard to understand)

Johnsmith, I am not sure what you were expecting the GM to do, but the GM's response is not "a lot of blabla". You were told as much as reasonably possible about duping in general and how Blizzard approaches it.

Like someone else said, I operate on the assumption that if someone is selling a Spectral, it is more than likely either duped or taken from a stolen account. I know this is not always the case, but it's true often enough, and I don't want to fool myself about just who I may be doing business with.

There's an entire thread on these forums about how to assess whether something has been duped and how to avoid being ripped off. Since you want the Spectral mount so badly that you acknowledge your hopes may get in the way of your common sense sometimes, then I'd suggest you read that thread and remember the tips. Good luck to you.

Oh yes i have found that thread you mention it was really helpful thanks for the advice!

The 420K tiger showed up yesterday on my realm and today another guy showed up selling lots of TCGs inculiding both Swift/nonSwift tigers. Think it is the same guy. It is a lvl1 human too the one yesterday was called "Tesswa" this one today is called "Ddsswe" and they speak English very similar and answer maximum 2 words that's it.
This guy says lowest price is 470K. Sure duped

I will admit I didn't read all the replies so maybe I'm offbase but.... I don't think this was a dupe...I think this was the code scam. Never...NEVER pay for a code when the item is BoE. Have them trade in the code themselves then put the actual item in the trade box to trade for the gold. I was scammed like this a while back, but it was this one guy who hits every server and talks about his "boss", so it doesn't sound like the same guy. But Blizz returned my gold to me in that case.

As for dupes...I always assume if I see many being sold by a level 1 they are dupes, if it's on the AH or only 1 is being sold at what I would consider *could* be a reasonable price for someone who is desperate for gold or ignorant of the item's worth, then I assume legit.

Also, if it had been a dupe, he wouldve had the actual item, and actually would've put it in the box and actually traded you the item, he wouldn't have bothered with the code scam.

I would see if Blizz would be willing to refund you, they might not...but they might...make sure they know that you were ignorant of the scam and fell for it.

Agreed. Codes are bad unless it's like a buddy you're getting it from.

If I wanted the mount I would have bought it. Heck I think I paid 15k for my vial of the sands mount from a guy selling 3 off a level 1 in trade. I almost bought them all but I figured I'd have a better shot of keeping my mount if I didn't do so. I still have it. I work under the assumption that with these TCG things that if they aren't advertising multiples and it's a server where the gold is valuable that it's just a gold seller. Win a cheap loot card at auction, sell the item on the server. Turn around and sell the gold for profit. Things change when they have multiple available.