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    No gold in legion!! :( An old market dealers problem

    Hello there fellow gold makers!

    Anyone else in the community noticed that high valued collectible sales dropped enormously since legion? I used to brag about getting more than 60k in sales a day. Back then I had 2.5 mil AH value, I was a proud gold-maker. Times change however

    I use the same tactics as I did in the day (end of WoD), my AH value even raised to 4 mil and my stuff keeps getting more rare and I have some monopolys on realy rare stuff like rhinestone, ruby shades,... Last week I only got 8.7k gold a day in sales with my liquid gold sitting on 37k due to having same investing routine with less sales I am getting in the negatives.

    Did people suddenly lose interest in collectables? I thought new people would bring more gold.

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    Hey Judy,

    First things first, there's a ton of gold to be made in legion. Looking at your profile, I see some big problem.

    I see that you have multiples of every item listed. Yet I don't see any scenario where you'll sell more than say, 1 , yet you have a dozen at the AH. This only convinces potential buyers that the item isn't rare at all, since you have so many at the AH. I would urge you to reduce your posting cap to 1 for anything collectible.

    Once you take the duplicates away, your inventory is worth about 500k (realistically though, half of that).

    Second problem is with your transmog items. Some of them are easily obtained elsewhere, such as https://theunderminejournal.com/#eu/...ade/item/14287. Legion made tons of unique appearance items super valuable, others completely worthless. Legion - Appearances

    Players are more captivated with actually playing the game now, more than ever. It's time to switch gears, and collectibles aren't exactly appealing to many right now.
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    Well, I have a post cap of 10 to scare competition. But yea, your right
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    IMO, You should never post more than 2 unless you know you can sell those within a posting period and don't have time to maintain posts. It doesn't only scare off competition it makes people think they can wait for lower prices because it seems less rare than it actually is. Those deposits start to add up as well.

    I'm having no problem though just flipping rare crap only. Sales have actually gone way up in compassion to WoD. I wasn't able to flip any rare recipes/appearences/transmog what so ever around then but now is looking very nice (recipes are 500% dead though it seems) My method of gold making since MoP has to been just to flip anything and everything instead of doing any professions so it's a nice feeling that it's starting to churn out decent amounts again for little effort.

    This is an experiment I started with less than 50 gold to my name on another low pop/merged server in effort to start funding wow tokens off an server I don't care about the gold going to that.
    https://theunderminejournal.com/#us/...eller/seiketsu

    I'm basically snatching up anything and everything that will flip and mass posting. I've churned through about 300k in around 2 months with sometimes sitting on less than 500 gold. I have over 150k in my backpack, and I'm about to post my first sky golem that I leveled engineering up to just make slowly overtime for the easy 60k profit. I would have expected this method of gold making to be super bad and slow on a low pop but its churning out quite well. I spend maybe 15mins on this char tops a day.

    (ignore around 150+ items there. Some guy posted over 200 greens for 1g each that if I literally sold just 1 of the things he sold I had already made profit, so I'm posting the rest to see how it goes. Thanks for their super lazy spring cleaning.)
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    Bad times to come then, only 100k a month, I thought I would be making 1 mil+ a week with flipping
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    Quote Originally Posted by judy View Post
    Bad times to come then, only 100k a month, I thought I would be making 1 mil+ a week with flipping
    You would need to turn over your entire inventory (excluding duplicates) twice to make that happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by judy View Post
    Bad times to come then, only 100k a month, I thought I would be making 1 mil+ a week with flipping
    Flipping is a long con. I'd say if you wanted to aim for something big and reasonable, 200k a week would sound extremely well and doable with the right inventory and persistence.

    However, for 1m a week I think you would have to be sitting on every TCG mount and rare pet and hoping to sell a Spectral Tiger every week, and then some more. I wouldn't see this happening unless you were sitting on the highest pop server for your region as well.
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    @Acry while I agree with you, just a small note (which is more of a teaser to you, or a joke), that if you sell a spectral a week, you'd get 5mil+ a week haha.

    As for you @judy , adapt or perish is the key sentence here. You need to engage the new Legion markets and adapt your existing market (rare items) to the current population, like they both said before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedj View Post
    @Acry while I agree with you, just a small note (which is more of a teaser to you, or a joke), that if you sell a spectral a week, you'd get 5mil+ a week haha.

    As for you @judy , adapt or perish is the key sentence here. You need to engage the new Legion markets and adapt your existing market (rare items) to the current population, like they both said before.
    Tigers were only around 2m-3.9m on Illidan for a bit, and I'd assume you're making maybe 100k-500k on resale at best if you were able to manage get one to flip these days. This was just purely from a buy on AH then instant resale perspective. :P
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    Oh I see! Then yes, you're totally right.
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