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    Newbie shuffler and goldmaker in general! Advice on some topics?

    So I set up the shuffle:

    JC/ench with Alch alt

    TSM/Auctionator

    Right now my shuffle is three parts:

    Scroll production
    Meta cutting
    Rare cutting

    Three questions about this:

    -What rare cutting recipes are your money getters? Right now I put all rares to meta, and the rest go to stormy river's and mystic sun's.

    -Where can I read up on Alchemy money making? Does it expand outside xmuting?

    -Is there a general recommendation on the best 4th money making prof to go to my alch alt?

    And lastly an unrelated question: Which is the ore shuffler's bag addon to go with?

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    Ore shuffle

    http://stormspire.net/search.php?searchid=1198611

    Here are some threads about the shuffle...my basic idea is if you buy a stack of ore for less than a cut rare, keep buying.

    On average if I see ghost iron ore under 80g I buy it out, if its over, I might farm for awhile myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogozjin View Post
    -Where can I read up on Alchemy money making? Does it expand outside xmuting?
    For alchemy outside the shuffle (x-mute gems into rares and metas) it's quite straightforward:

    x-mute living steel if profitable
    x-mute trillium if profitable
    make potions /elixirs / flasks if profitable (but be sure to check the demand on these! I've found elixers just don't sell...)

    What's your alchemy specialization? x-mute is probably the best; but elixirs (unless my server is an anomoly) is definitely the worst.

    Edit: I should mention there are lots of pre-MoP opportunities for alchemy too: x-mute arcanite / titansteel / truegold; vial of the sands; potion of treasure finding ; ect. Of course these are very server reliant and your results may vary (I haven't dabbled in these myself yet).
    Last edited by Wuster; May 1st, 2013 at 03:34 PM.

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    it seems a lot to get into to make it work out. I'm new to shuffling and focusing on increasing the volume ores I process right now.

    currently all my alch does is primal mutes

    livingsteel I have not found profitable, but I will keep an eye on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyolsenblues View Post

    On average if I see ghost iron ore under 80g I buy it out, if its over, I might farm for awhile myself.
    Do you then process it or sell the ore if you farm it yourself?

    If it isn't profitable to buy and process it (which is the only reason you would farm it yourself) then it still isn't profitable to farm and process it.

    In fact farming to process when it's not profitable to buy and process is a double whammy as you could have sold the item you farmed for more than the processed goods and it took you all that extra time to farm it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thefluffyrocker View Post
    Do you then process it or sell the ore if you farm it yourself?

    If it isn't profitable to buy and process it (which is the only reason you would farm it yourself) then it still isn't profitable to farm and process it.

    In fact farming to process when it's not profitable to buy and process is a double whammy as you could have sold the item you farmed for more than the processed goods and it took you all that extra time to farm it.
    This is a big gotcha.

    When I first set up my alchemists TUJ would say primal diamonds were profitable to x-mute; buy uncommons + gl => rare games => primals!

    Then I noticed it was more profitable to just sell the rares (even when accounting for a generous proc rate).

    I find when GIO/GIB and trillium prices are close, I'm only willing to x-mute the ore I farmed rather than buying it off the AH... call it a blind spot; but it helps when my downside is a paper loss instead of real loss I guess (I don't really dedicate time to farming either; just whatever I get when doing dailies).

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    For gem profitability I recommend checking out this post (self-promoting).

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    any recommendations on what to go with as 4th prof?

    I need a high GPH

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    What am I doing wrong?

    I make 20k/day, but that's more time invested than what is healthy.

    JC Enc Alch.

    The only way forward is to get a fourth profession.

    Is there money in alchemy? I only transmute.

    What 4th profession could tick up my GPH without taking too much time away from shuffling?

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    You could pick up tailoring. The recent Dreadful cloth pieces are a good source of Ethereal Shards. Failing that you might try Inscription. I've found Darkmoon Trinkets to be a very good way to make gold.

    Alchemy is fine for making gold. I don't use it as a part of my shuffle, in the rare times I do it, because I get more gold selling regular rare cuts compared to using them for primals. However I do use my alch regularly to make arcanite bars and living steel.

 

 
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