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  • TradeSkillMaster Application Closed Beta

    We have been working very hard over the past few months on a major upgrade for the TradeSkillMaster Application, and we're finally ready to invite more people to try it out. So, we're planning on starting a closed beta phase for the new application within a matter of days (pending catastrophic issues). What's new? As you may know, the TSM app has recently had issues getting data from Blizzard. This new application fixes that and provides exciting new data to TSM_AuctionDB.



    New Global Prices for AuctionDB



    In addition to updating AuctionDB's market value and min buyout prices for the realms you have selected, the application will update AuctionDB with a handful of new global market prices. These are based on horde and alliance across US and EU combined.



    New "Global Sale Price"



    This tells you exactly what people are paying for a given item. The way we are determining this is unique to TSM, and extremely accurate compared to TUJ and similar websites. More details about this will come in the near future (once we're convinced it'll work at scale), but suffice it to say: we don't make this claim lightly.




    How to sign up?
    There are a few limitations of the beta version of this new application:
    • Does not yet do any deal notifications.
    • Currently, only Windows is supported (no mac version).

    We hope to fix these limitations ASAP, but if they don't bother you, and you'd like to sign up for the beta, you can do so by signing into your account at http://www.tradeskillmaster.com, clicking on the "My Account" link in the top-right, going to the "TSM Apps Auth" page, and clicking on the link there.


    Future Plans
    There are many other things which are still in the works, and there's still lots to do to ensure the stability of the new features we've already implemented. The new application obviously can't get all of this data directly from Blizzard, so the app now goes data through a new TSM server we have setup to process the data from Blizzard and provide it to our users. This new server is expensive (10x our previous server costs), so if you enjoy TSM, and want to help ensure our continued progress on new features such as this, please consider supporting us financially.


    Feedback / Comments / Lack of NDA
    Please use this thread for any feedback, comments, or questions regarding this new version of the TSM Application. There is no NDA here. You're free to share any information / screenshots / etc you want if you're invited to the beta.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: TradeSkillMaster Application Closed Beta started by Sapu94 View original post
    Comments 208 Comments
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      The first batch of invites just went out! If you have been invited, you will have received an email (from sapu@tradeskillmaster.com) with further details.

      If you are in the beta, please provide your feedback in this thread. This first batch was relatively small, and as soon as we hear some initial feedback from this first batch, we'll send out another round of invites.

      Thanks!
    1. Season's Avatar
      Season -
      Am loving the improvements, many many quality of life improvements, and I've only just scratched the surface.
      One thing I have found though, everytime I hit craft next via TSM the screen blacks for a fraction of a second. No errors have popped up for it though
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Season View Post
      Am loving the improvements, many many quality of life improvements, and I've only just scratched the surface.
      One thing I have found though, everytime I hit craft next via TSM the screen blacks for a fraction of a second. No errors have popped up for it though
      What does this have to do with the beta application? If you're having a general TSM issue, you should review the "READ FIRST" sticky and post a new thread.
    1. Season's Avatar
      Season -
      Because you asked for feedback etc to be in this thread, and it's something that has only started since I installed and started running the beta application. No matter, I will start a thread if you wish.
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Season View Post
      Because you asked for feedback etc to be in this thread, and it's something that has only started since I installed and started running the beta application. No matter, I will start a thread if you wish.
      I don't see how the TSM Application could cause your monitor to go black when you craft something in WoW....you should make a new thread and describe in detail what you're seeing.
    1. Season's Avatar
      Season -
      Aye have done. The only thing I could think of, which I've stated in the thread is that it only happens when crafting items I don't have in my bags already. It's like pulling up a value of the item is causing it to flicker. Only thing I can think of. I have since then cleared my saved variables so it may just be me being lazy in the first place...
    1. Season's Avatar
      Season -
      Urgh I'm an idiot. clearing my saved Variables has fixed it... My apologies for my stupidity, I'll go back in my box now
    1. firewolf1988's Avatar
      firewolf1988 -
      The application itself seems to be working, the only thing that slightly threw me off is I couldn't see a way to tell how fresh the data was since the App doesn't seem to show this anymore, but it appears that is shown on the tooltip in game.

      One question though, in the write up in the OP it mentions a global sale value, I don't see this on the tooltip in game. Is that not in yet or should I be digging further to find out why its not showing?

      Edit: Nevermind the last bit, I relaunched WoW and there it is. False alarm!
    1. Muffin's Avatar
      Muffin -
      I will also be around this thread and in IRC to help answer any questions and solve any issues.
    1. The_Marsh's Avatar
      The_Marsh -
      Quote Originally Posted by firewolf1988 View Post
      The application itself seems to be working, the only thing that slightly threw me off is I couldn't see a way to tell how fresh the data was since the App doesn't seem to show this anymore, but it appears that is shown on the tooltip in game.
      This would be a nice feature to add-in (even though it tells you in game). Also is there no way to force update anymore? Other than that, no problems so far.
    1. Muffin's Avatar
      Muffin -
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Marsh View Post
      This would be a nice feature to add-in (even though it tells you in game). Also is there no way to force update anymore? Other than that, no problems so far.
      So just a little top level background about the new app...

      Instead of downloading from Blizzard directly, we have some intermediary magic going on. Instead of your desktop app checking every X minutes (or forcing a recheck) our intermediary stuff is CONSTANTLY checking Blizzard for new data. The app then pings our intermediary stuff for your realm to see if the data has been updated vs. what you have on your computer. I don't remember how often the app checks but I think it is extremely often, like <1 a minute.

      This has a number of benefits. Your data is, within a minute or so, always up-to date as much as is can be.

      Also... say (with the old app) you opened in in the morning, got new data, and then closed it. Then you reopened it in the evening and go new data then. Well doing that you most definitely missed several scans during the day. With the new app this doesn't happen. When the new app downloads data, it downloads everything up to that point, even if it had been closed for quite awhile... it doesn't matter.

      TLDR;
      There no longer a need to be able to "Force Update" data. Displaying age might be nice but you can be assured that the data is as up-to-date as it can be!
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      A second (larger) round of notifications are going out now. We've gotten some good feedback so far (and even implemented some of it already) via this thread and IRC.
    1. fluxdada's Avatar
      fluxdada -
      Just put in my beta application. Definitely looking forward to checking it out.
    1. Shinn's Avatar
      Shinn -
      I've downloaded the beta and set up my realms, but I don't seem to be getting any data in-game. The tool tips are saying the data is over 12 hours old, plus it still looks like the old set up. I must be doing something wrong....just not sure what.

      Also thanks for the chance to test the beta!!
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shinn View Post
      I've downloaded the beta and set up my realms, but I don't seem to be getting any data in-game. The tool tips are saying the data is over 12 hours old, plus it still looks like the old set up. I must be doing something wrong....just not sure what.

      Also thanks for the chance to test the beta!!
      Do you have the alpha versions of the addons as described in the email?
    1. Shinn's Avatar
      Shinn -
      I thought I did....but after checking I didn't click the update button!!

      Thanks Sapu
    1. Batox's Avatar
      Batox -
      Hi there,

      it seems as if wowuction data is'nt updating. auction db works fine. all modules are alpha (alpha is my standard release preference in the curse client for all my addons ;-) i even de- and reinstalled the wowuction module (data is over one day old) other than that everything is working like a charm. good work! ...
    1. Professori's Avatar
      Professori -
      Just downloaded the new app and latest alphas, logged in and got message about missing wowuction data. Went for a smoke and after I came back reloaded ui and its been working fine since. Some sort of timer or confirmation that application has downloaded new stuff would be awesome.
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Batox View Post
      Hi there,

      it seems as if wowuction data is'nt updating. auction db works fine. all modules are alpha (alpha is my standard release preference in the curse client for all my addons ;-) i even de- and reinstalled the wowuction module (data is over one day old) other than that everything is working like a charm. good work! ...
      If you've reinstalled WoWuction and it shows as over one day old, then it's probably working fine. It's just a visual bug with the time showing a day more than it should, which will be fixed.
    1. Sapu94's Avatar
      Sapu94 -
      Another batch of invites just went out!