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    How to Set Up Enchanting in TSM Like a Boss Part 1

    Alright, hold onto your pants cause @Sapu94 and I are about to lead you to the Enchanting Promise Land. I have 1000% confidence that enchanting is the most profitable profession in World of Warcraft, but before today it was an utter pain to setup so that the profit settings were optimal. Thanks to Sapu that is no longer the case. In approximately 10 minutes you can go from not monetizing enchanting scrolls at all to having it perfectly set up for scrolls. How do you accomplish this? I am going to show you how. If you aren't excited at this point you should be, cause your mind is about to be blown. Unlike any other profession Enchanting's crafts are heavily, and frequently restricted by ilvl ranges so that you have to have certain ilvl gear to enchant them with better enchants. Why is this awesome? It means that older crafts remain relevant and due to the esoteric way that many formulas are obtained new enchanters are heavily gated in entering markets. Thanks to this and the vast amount of ignorance on this point (many people contest that Enchanting is a terrible profession for raking in gold) enchanting is a killer profession for profits on the scrolls alone--not only this but it also has the most synergy among any of the other professions. Even with inscription enchanting can come into usefulness and you can level the profession profitably.

    Is that awesome? Yes, yes it is. Anyways, onto the main event which I think you should be salivating on, because you are about to be force fed some steak, (sorry goblin vegetarians, this post is only for greedy, carnivorous Goblin champions). I have taken screen shots of every step along the way that is necessary to be taken after TSM is installed. Note: first you need to install the soon to be made available release version of TSM, which is available if you are an ethereal contributor or a wind trader.

    However, Sapu tells me it will hit the general public soon. Also, install The Undermine Journal General Edition, which you can get here:

    Addon Link

    For the purposes of managing addon updates I have found the curse client to be great. It's available for both windows and macs. The download link is here: Curse Client

    First, go to the tradeskill master crafting enchanting profession button. Click Force Rescan of Profession (Advanced)



    Next, go to every subcategory (2H weapon, Boots, Bracers, etc.) and click Enable All Crafts.



    Then create an Enchanting Category in the Trade Skill Master Auctioning Module



    Next, return to the Trade Skill Master Crafting Module. Go to each subcategory under Crafts and click on Create Auctioning Groups.



    Then, click on the button next under How to add crafts to Auctioning. Select All in Individual Groups. Do this for each subcategory.



    Then, click on Category to put groups into: select the enchanting category that you created earlier. Next click on Add Crafted Items from this Group to Auctioning Groups. This will put each craft in its own auctioning group under the enchanting category. Many enchants sell for up to 700% of their crafting value, so doing something like only 200% is going to kneecap your profits unnecessarily.



    Next, set the threshold as 110% of the %AuctionDB - Crafting Cost. Set the fallback price as 125% of The Undermine Journal - Market Average GE price.



    The reason setting scroll group prices up this way is superior to any other methods is that the undermin journal market average GE price (or median) is that the undermine journal is scanning every auction house in your continent every hour and keeps this price history for 2 weeks as a moving average, which means that price trends will be followed for the past 2 weeks. Not only does this allow for super quick setup of the enchanting crafts it also means that the prices will keep up with inflation in WoW, which especially going into the next expansion will be 100% or more over several months into it Simply put, if the fallback prices do not constantly adjust themselves you will need to do a lot of manual work. Then, go to the auction house and perform a get all scan. This step is necessary so that the material prices are as up to date as possible. If you have Trades Skill Master's autoupdating program this price data will be even better. The TSM external program can be downloaded here: Trade Skill Master Auto Updater

    Next, it's useful to ensure that the pricing data that the Trade Skill Master Crafting module will use is sensible. Go to the Crafting Module then click on Price / Inventory Settings. This will bring up the window where the price and inventory settings can be adjusted.



    I like to use pricing data that takes into account more than just the current scan or the last scan performed. Utilizing data from the past week or two weeks allows for a much more stable material and craft pricing information. So, I use either The Undermine Journal Realm Edition for material prices or the TSM Auction DB as they utilize what is referred to as a moving average, which essentially is just using pricing information from the past week or two weeks when performing various relevant calculations.

    I also recommend changing the category settings for the max restock amount and the and minimum profit % and minimum profit in gold so that the very low profit scrolls are not queued and also that for the initial crafting round only 2 of each are queued up. Once you get a feel for what is selling out before you recraft, change the amount restocked for that scroll as described in the guide. Click on the Enchanting Button withing the Crafting Module, then click options. Next, click the override max restock quantity and set it to 2. Enable Override minimum profit and set it to percent and gold amount. Change the minimum profit to 10-20% and the minimum profit to 40 or so gold. I feel that if the scroll is not at least this profitable that it is not worth my time to create.



    However, lets say that someone is trying to control material prices in such a way that due to the material being not very common or in low supply that addons which rely on having reasonable pricing data will behave poorly. In the case of TSM this would entail crafts that are profitable appearing to be unprofitable to the addon as it reflects the supply seen on the auction house rather than what your actual material prices may be if you are doing cross faction purchases or manufacturing them through other means. Fortunately, Trade Skill Master lets you input fixed pricing for material costs. It's useful to take advantage of so that items commonly controlled actually reflect their actual pricing data for your setup. In order to do this, click on the Materials subcategory after the Enchanting tab is opened. Then click on the material whose price you wish to adjust. As an example I am changing the price of Abyss Crystals to a fixed price.



    Then, click the Override Price Source, followed by clicking Custom Value. Enter the price you wish for the crafting module to use. I set it as 24g in this example.




    In order to get current pricing data, or add to the pricing data for materials and crafts we need to run a get all scan, especially if you are not using the Trade Skill Master Auto Updater. Note: if you are using either the undermine journal realm edition or the undermine journal general edition you can skip this step. However, if you are using the Trade Skill Master Auction DB (AucDb) you should do this step to ensure the most accurate price measurements.



    Next, click on Crafts, then Show Craft Management Window.



    Once that step is taken, click on Restock Queue. This queues up all the crafts that are less than the number of scrolls already made.



    Note: once you have set up all these scroll groups and after each restocking session you want to increase the number of scrolls queued if you sold out of those scrolls before the next recrafting. This is absolutely essential for optimal monetization for each interval. It is done by clicking on Additional Item Settings for Each Group. It is not all that time intensive due to only some scrolls selling out quickly.



    Then change the Max Restock Quantity to the next level, repeat this process for each recrafting process until you no longer sell out of the scroll by the next recrafting session.

    Finally, go to your favorite auctioneer with the created scrolls from earlier.



    Congratulations, if you've followed this guide setting up, crafting, and posting scrolls to the AH is absolutely optimal. Warning: your jaw may drop when you realize the insane profits myself and others are seeing. Hint: it's in the tens of thousands every day.


    How to Set Up Enchanting in TSM Like a Boss Part 2


    Another profitable advantage in enchanting is disenchanting items from the auction house for profit. This is extremely useful for ensuring a continuing stockpile of enchanting materials by taking advantage of gear dumped on the auction house by people leveling up other professions. This process is very simple, and it only requires taking advantage of shopping lists. These shopping lists use the upcoming changes to the auction tab (new feature) in the release version of Trade Skill Master.

    Enchant Materials Shopping Lists

    Astral Essence
    Code:
    s1@11082,10998$armor/uncommon/16/25/i21/i30;weapon/uncommon/16/25/i21/i30@
    Celestial Essence
    Code:
    s1@52718,52719$armor/uncommon/81/85/i272/i333;weapon/uncommon/81/85/i272/i333@
    Cosmic Essence
    Code:
    s1@34055,34056$armor/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200;weapon/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200@
    Eternal Essence
    Code:
    s1@16203,16202$armor/uncommon/51/64/i51/i65;weapon/uncommon/51/64/i51/i65@
    Magic Essence
    Code:
    s1@10938,10939$armor/uncommon/1/15/i5/i20;weapon/uncommon/1/15/i5/i20@
    Mystic Essence
    Code:
    s1@11135,11134$armor/uncommon/26/35/i31/i40;weapon/uncommon/26/35/i31/i40@
    Nether Essence
    Code:
    s1@11175,11174$armor/uncommon/36/45/i41/i50;weapon/uncommon/36/45/i41/i50@
    Planar Essence
    Code:
    s1@22446,22447$armor/uncommon/56/70/i80/i120;weapon/uncommon/56/70/i80/i120@
    Importing the Shopping Lists

    First, click on Shopping Lists and then Import Shopping Lists



    Then, enter a Shopping list name and copy the text from the shopping lists above. Do this for each shopping list.





    Using the Auction Tab

    Click on Show Saved Searches. Then click on one of the shopping lists created in the previous steps.



    This will search for all the terms on the shopping list. Then click sort by item price.



    Trade Skill Master may add an option to include a column which calculates the market price difference between the market price of the enchant mats and the cost of the item. Whenever this number is positive you want to buy that item. Until this feature is implemented I am using Auctionator's tooltip information that shows the market value of the enchant mats when you hover over the item. You can see that information inside the red box on the tooltip below.





    Trade Skill Master's Auctioning Tab currently does not feature something similar to Auctioneer's Quick Buyout. With that in mind, and understanding sometimes you are buying many items in a row I have created a macro which you only have to press twice instead of moving a mouse around to 3 areas and clicking 3 buttons, which makes this process much faster.

    Code:
    /click ScrollTable2Row1col1
    /click TSMAHTabBuyoutButton
    /click TSMAHConfirmationActionButton
    That is all that is necessary to profitably disenchant items in World of Warcraft.

    Finally, once you have all these enchanting mats created, and the scroll market is saturated how should the enchant materials be brought to the market so that an optimal sell through rate is implemented? Sapu has a great post about this very topic that extends to enchanting. You can read it here: Stack Size Matters

    How to Set Up Enchanting in TSM Like a Boss Part 3

    Next is an incredibly powerful feature that really trivializes auction house micromanagement when it comes to resetting markets and taking advantage of underpriced items, effectively outsourcing crafting and drying up others supply by brute force and courage of heart. What is fantastic about this feature is that you can set it up at a category level, which makes it very fast to implement.

    First, go into the auctioning tab, click on the enchanting category, scroll down and you will see "include in reset scan" under Reset Scan Settings. Enable this.



    Next, adjust the settings that appear.



    I like these settings currently as only somewhat profitable under priced scrolls appear and the ones that do appear are close to my production cost. Fine tuning this feature will take some experimentation though. Next, add "enchant" to the "Common Search Term" field that is under Category Overrides. This dramatically speeds up reset scans on the order of 50 times in my experience.



    After the reset scan settings are in place, go to the auction house and click on "Reset Auctions." This will start scanning for items to buy out and repost for profit based on the reset settings determined earlier. After you identify which ones you wish to purchase, merely click away with the buying macro I wrote about earlier in this thread.



    Enjoy the profit avalanche. Soon you will be replying to your competitors, "Oh, don't mind me. I am just making it rain gold."
    This article was originally published in forum thread: How to Set Up Enchanting in TSM Like a Boss started by Reverb View original post
    Comments 187 Comments
    1. Crkwizard's Avatar
      Crkwizard -
      Great post Reverb! (+rep)

      One issue though, while I was trying to set this up, I noticed that I was not able to set the % shown in picture # 7. All i have available for changing is "Price Threshold" (under MInimum Price Setting) and Fallback Price" (under Maximum Price Setting).

      Do i need something different?
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by Crkwizard View Post
      Great post Reverb! (+rep)

      One issue though, while I was trying to set this up, I noticed that I was not able to set the % shown in picture # 7. All i have available for changing is "Price Threshold" (under MInimum Price Setting) and Fallback Price" (under Maximum Price Setting).

      Do i need something different?
      You need to have advanced settings turned on in Tradeskillmaster if you haven't already. Also, I added a section (part 3) about how to set up reset scans in the release version of TSM so that you can maximize profits and take advantage of people essentially crafting scrolls for you at cost.



      You need to uncheck hide advanced settings.
    1. Crkwizard's Avatar
      Crkwizard -
      WOOT!, Thanks!
    1. Shopro's Avatar
      Shopro -
      Great guide, thank you for it. Two questions.

      1. How have you set your "Crafting Options" -> "Price / Inventory Settings", specially interested in the "Get Mat Prices From" and "Get Craft Prices From"

      2. I have been using the EU-Realm edition of the TUJ addon for few months now and just tried to download the GE version shown here in the guide. However I don't get any of the options shown in the guide (regarding GE) so my question is should I keep trying to figure out what the problem is or just use the realm edition for it.
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shopro View Post
      Great guide, thank you for it. Two questions.

      1. How have you set your "Crafting Options" -> "Price / Inventory Settings", specially interested in the "Get Mat Prices From" and "Get Craft Prices From"

      2. I have been using the EU-Realm edition of the TUJ addon for few months now and just tried to download the GE version shown here in the guide. However I don't get any of the options shown in the guide (regarding GE) so my question is should I keep trying to figure out what the problem is or just use the realm edition for it.
      I have crafting material prices set to use TSM auction db market value. Do you have the release version of TSM? The latest version (not yet released to the general public) is the only version that supports the General Edition of TSM.
    1. Blitzed's Avatar
      Blitzed -
      another reason im REALLY ***** loking forward to the new release OMG!!!

      Thanks for the nice writeup Reverb, currently juggling mainly Enchanting scrolls and even tho its working out pretty damn well this will aid in my quest to optimize it even more!
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blitzed View Post
      another reason im REALLY ***** loking forward to the new release OMG!!!

      Thanks for the nice writeup Reverb, currently juggling mainly Enchanting scrolls and even tho its working out pretty damn well this will aid in my quest to optimize it even more!
      The reset scan feature and TUJ general edition support are game changers.
    1. Shopro's Avatar
      Shopro -
      Quote Originally Posted by Reverb View Post
      I have crafting material prices set to use TSM auction db market value. Do you have the release version of TSM? The latest version (not yet released to the general public) is the only version that supports the General Edition of TSM.
      That is the reason why I can't use it, thanks for clearing that out. I honestly thought I failed at a simple addon installation.

      The biggest problem I've had with setting crafting/material cost to use TSM Auction DB is the missing price information on about 20% of the materials which results in to threshold of 0 and no posts are posted.

      Also having threshold as % crafting cost results into fallback being lower using this guide but it must be just few items I have since most work correctly.
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shopro View Post
      That is the reason why I can't use it, thanks for clearing that out. I honestly thought I failed at a simple addon installation.

      The biggest problem I've had with setting crafting/material cost to use TSM Auction DB is the missing price information on about 20% of the materials which results in to threshold of 0 and no posts are posted.

      Also having threshold as % crafting cost results into fallback being lower using this guide but it must be just few items I have since most work correctly.
      Any of the sources for material prices would work in the list I have available with having the undermine journal realm edition, the undermine journal general edition, or auctionator database.



      I would probably used the undermine journal realm edition market average as it has a 2 week history so should avoid being susceptible to short term material droughts. Note: When you set up the Category thresholds, you would still use the crafting cost setting.
    1. Shopro's Avatar
      Shopro -
      Thank you again, perfectly answered. One last thing I thought about asking is how to deal with price poisoning, I suppose it's called price poisoning or something. In here for example the "Enchant Boots - Stamina" has the Market Value as ? and Profit as ? when using AuctionDB - Min Buyout as Craft Price, however someone has in the past posted this same enchant for up to 6800g and as we all know it won't sell. But with this setup it gets crafted and posted with that avg buyout that is just too high. How would one overcome this situation. Thank you again for all the help.Attachment 385
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      When you use Min Buyout it only looks at the items currently on the Auction House. That's why I prefer to use market value or market median for crafting and fallback prices. With either the undermine journal or tsm auction db as the pricing sources a two weeks worth of data is included, rather than just that one particular snapshot of prices when you did a get all scan. Say that abyss crystals were up for 10,000g when you did a get all scan and you were using TSM's min prices, if that was the only auction up it would be included in the 20% of supply used for calculations and the crafting addon would perceive the production cost of being over 10,000g on any item that used Abyss Crystals. If you use the market average as long as that price poisoning was not present for that entire duration the effect of that 10,000g data point would be much less significant. In the event that the material price data is still insanely erratic, put the material price as your actual cost (if you manufacture it somehow) rather than what is shown on the AH. For example, Crusader Orbs were like 100g on my faction's AH, but I got them cross faction for 20g, so I put my material cost for crusader orbs at 20g rather than have it be at 100g if I just followed my faction's pricing data.

      @Shopro, I added a section in the guide about how to deal with price poisoning.
    1. Shopro's Avatar
      Shopro -
      Great, thanks a lot for including the price poisoning, makes a lot more sense seeing it in screenshots etc.

      There is a typo in the guide about Cosmic Essence.

      Typo:
      Code:
      ss1@34055,34056$armor/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200;weapon/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200@
      Should be:
      Code:
      s1@34055,34056$armor/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200;weapon/uncommon/67/80/i130/i200@
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Thanks, it should be correct now.
    1. nizg's Avatar
      nizg -
      Hi!
      I became contributor thanks to this guide
      One question for you: I had never used TSM before, so when you say
      Once that step is taken, click on Restock Queue. This queues up all the crafts that are less than the number of scrolls already made.
      nothing happens on my addon queue.
      I tried left-clicking on each and every craft once, but then after clicking "Restock queue" all the queue was reset.
      Any advice?
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by nizg View Post
      Hi!
      I became contributor thanks to this guide
      One question for you: I had never used TSM before, so when you say nothing happens on my addon queue.
      I tried left-clicking on each and every craft once, but then after clicking "Restock queue" all the queue was reset.
      Any advice?
      Do you have enchanting crafts enabled, the auctioning groups created, the material prices to pull from set, and the fallback price set?

      @nizg, I included a paragraph that may fix the issue you're having. It's under setting the crafting options for the enchanting tab: http://i.imgur.com/T8JOK.jpg
    1. jimmyolsenblues's Avatar
      jimmyolsenblues -
      These are great steps I appreciate them.
      I am much more lazy and yes I probably loss a lot of profit.
      I create basically 3 groups.
      27g-200g for glyphs , gems and not vicious plate/cloth
      500g-150g for shadowspirit cut gems and vicious plate/cloth
      1000g-300g for darkmoon cards.
      maybe a fourth group
      40g-20g for green gems I am looking to get rid of.

      The most important thing for me to learn was how to create a group , how to modify the settings.
      TSM is so much faster than using zeroauctions+auctioneer pre-4.3. Zeroauctions is no dice after 4.3

      Thanks for all your hard work.
    1. nizg's Avatar
      nizg -
      HA! I was rereading the post, and thought to myself how could I have somehow missed this paragraph...

      But still no go: I think I have a problem with the material prices.
      I installed both TUJ GE and TUJ for my realm (but only using TUJ GE as data source).
      The crafting cost shows as "--- ---" in the Tradeskill Master info tooltip section, for any of the enchants.
      The auto updater is running in the background.
      I'll look into that, thanks for your help!
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      Quote Originally Posted by nizg View Post
      HA! I was rereading the post, and thought to myself how could I have somehow missed this paragraph...

      But still no go: I think I have a problem with the material prices.
      I installed both TUJ GE and TUJ for my realm (but only using TUJ GE as data source).
      The crafting cost shows as "--- ---" in the Tradeskill Master info tooltip section, for any of the enchants.
      The auto updater is running in the background.
      I'll look into that, thanks for your help!
      Can you take a screen shot of your Price/Inventory settings in the Crafting Module?
    1. nizg's Avatar
      nizg -
      OK I solved my problem: it was indeed a problem with the addons. I deactivated my TUJ realm addon, went back to "Crafting Options" -> "Price / Inventory Settings" and the value for "Get mat prices from" was unset (I had set it before). I reselected TUJ GE - Market Median, and now everything works.
      I guess it was mixing up the Market Median from TUJ GE and TUJ realm...

      Thank you!
    1. Reverb's Avatar
      Reverb -
      nice