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  • The Consortium is the 1% of WoW, how does that make you feel?

    Unless you have been living under a rock, by now everyone here should be aware of the ongoing global protests that started with OccupyWallStreet.

    Quote Originally Posted by http://occupywallst.org/about/
    Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future.
    Effectively, it is exposing how 1% of the population owns and controls the majority of the World's wealth and power. Now if you think about who The Consortium members are in WoW, we could be seen as similar.


    Granted most of us aren't corrupt, abusive and heavily immoral individuals, but we still probably control the majority of the World of Warcraft wealth. We do have to some extent influence over authority in World of Warcraft, many users on the forums have proved that they can make a difference, correct Blizzard or improve upon existing systems. I would estimate between 100-300 million gold if we take into account every single forum member. That's quite a lot aye?

    I've created a poll on the forums to help gauge what our forum member's wealth is at. Please go vote if you have time

    What's your thoughts on this? Both real world economics and world of warcraft economics. Many of the absolute top Wind Traders of The Consortium have made specific Wind Trader guilds (on US with an EU one in progress of being made) where they have either rerolled or transferred and are working together to control entire server markets. It's proving to be highly effective and just goes to show how much power we have.

    I live in South Africa, a poor and "third world" country with more than 33% unemployment and a very corrupt government. My father is a nuclear engineer and is in the top tax bracket for South Africa. He contributes 45% of his earnings to our government, which we know is getting wasted but what else can we do?

    Recently I've also been fairly active in something called the Right 2 Know campaign in my country .

    The Right2Know Campaign (R2K) is a nation-wide coalition of people and organisations opposed to the Protection of Information Bill – also known as the Secrecy Bill – currently before the South African parliament. The Bill will threaten hard-won constitutional rights including access to information and freedom of expression.

 R2K believes a responsive and accountable democracy able to meet the basic needs of our people is built on transparency and the free flow of information.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: The Consortium is the 1% of WoW, how does that make you feel? started by Sinshroud View original post
    Comments 40 Comments
    1. Stede's Avatar
      Stede -
      I'm corrupt in WoW. The amount of anti-competitive practices I engage in while playing would land me in a federal penitentiary for 20+ years in real life.I was once told, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, you'd be perma-banned." To which I responded, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, I'd send them all a chopper, a stack of fortune cards each week, dwarven kegs, and blood elf strippers." Don't rage; be the 1%.
    1. bellavacca's Avatar
      bellavacca -
      Quote Originally Posted by Stede View Post
      To which I responded, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, I'd send them all a chopper, a stack of fortune cards each week, dwarven kegs, and blood elf strippers." Don't rage; be the 1%.
      Love it.
    1. Namssob's Avatar
      Namssob -
      Quote Originally Posted by Stede View Post
      I'm corrupt in WoW. The amount of anti-competitive practices I engage in while playing would land me in a federal penitentiary for 20+ years in real life.I was once told, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, you'd be perma-banned." To which I responded, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, I'd send them all a chopper, a stack of fortune cards each week, dwarven kegs, and blood elf strippers." Don't rage; be the 1%.
      Post of the month....maybe year. Blood Elf Strippers....classic!
    1. usiris's Avatar
      usiris -
      Quote Originally Posted by Stede View Post
      I'm corrupt in WoW. The amount of anti-competitive practices I engage in while playing would land me in a federal penitentiary for 20+ years in real life.I was once told, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, you'd be perma-banned." To which I responded, "Dude, if there was an SEC in WoW, I'd send them all a chopper, a stack of fortune cards each week, dwarven kegs, and blood elf strippers." Don't rage; be the 1%.
      I think this just about sums up my thoughts as well...
    1. quietstrm07's Avatar
      quietstrm07 -
      @Stede - I almost want to steal that comment as my sig for MMO-champ, lol

      And I'm pretty sure, most of us would be in some sort of violation, but I don't think I've been unfair in my approach. I contract suppliers to supply low cost materials, craft, then resell at the market cost. And if you mention reselling items on the AH that people posted for less, just think of yourself as going to garage sales, finding some treasure that someone thinks is junk, and selling it for loads of cash
    1. Kathroman's Avatar
      Kathroman -
      Apparently I have been living under a rock (I don't watch the news - separate discussion probably ), because I first heard about OccupyWallStreet when Flux of Power Word: Gold linked an #occupyazeroth hashtag on twitter.

      The biggest difference that I can see is that the OWS movement seems to take their biggest issue with the way that money seems to be directly linked to political influence and "power". Are we perhaps in some sort of economic 1%? maybe, but we are by no means calling the shots as far as the entirety of the World of Warcraft is concerned. We can't bend the TOS or bribe GMs into giving us favourable ticket decisions. At best - we have a strong, unified voice as an informed, reasonable, and well-intentioned community. Our power doesn't really spill outside of Wall Street, so the rest of the world has no real reason to worry about us...
    1. Stede's Avatar
      Stede -
      Yeah, @Kathroman - the big difference is that we're too busy making gold to QQ on the forums and influence the Devs - and they don't need our gold anyway since they can create it out of thin air.
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      I don't know about the states but in Canada the richest 20% own 70% of the wealth, so I don't know where they're getting this 1% owns 99% crap. Sure it's not very equal, but not nearly as extreme as they try to claim.
    1. Sinshroud's Avatar
      Sinshroud -
      Great video to watch about how badly the police are handling the whole Occupy Protests.


      US Marine stands up to more than 30 NYPD members and puts them to shame.


      White Shirt Police man Knocks Out a girl out with a punch to the face for no apparent reason.



      More police punching citizens.

      http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...aa4e983f79.jpg
    1. Atterana's Avatar
      Atterana -
      Very similar situation to South Africa in India...if not more so.

      In a WoW based context however? Lol...I do so many illegal things...I screw over people selling stuff in trade with heavy lowballing all the time, I AH pvp with a bunch of people to force them out of niches (buying out frozen orbs and eternal fire/air to kill competition in WotLK metas for example).

      I have been at a loss as to what I can actually USE the gold I have for though...I mean...I can buy every BoE out there for all my alts...but what would be the point? It'd be outdated in 3-4 months anyway and I can get equivalent gear for free once 4.3 is out. >.> Everything I spend money on (leveling professions for alts, buying mats for crafting, stockpiling on stuff to deny access to competitors) ends up making me more money in the long run.
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      Thanks for picking at the scab Sin!

      I'm personally happy there isn't a tax system in WoW, otherwise I'd be like those hundreds of naked gnomes that occupied Ironforge years ago in an attempt to crash the server in protest. Eventually it ended with Blizzard sending in the GMs with riot gear and a ban stick. The messages were kinda funny: Please disperse! You are in violation of the TOU!

      There are actually a lot of similarities between real life events and what we see in Warcraft's system. Anyone recognize them? We would be the greedy Warren Buffets and Sam Waltons of this game. We recognized that the poor and downtrodden needed gear, potions, clothing, and food. With very limited faction intervention we sought out those materials to make the things they wanted at a reasonable price, right down to the Rich Purple Shirt on their backs. All while they sat in Org/SW telling Chuck Norris jokes or comparing their mounts they got for phoning in a few dailies. I've had to endure their banality because I cannot leave trade, or else I might miss a steal of a deal. Tell them to shut up, they proclaim they have a right to be a talking monkey because they pay the same 15 bucks as me to exist.

      We bargained with the most vicious of sellers, took advantage of the weak, sought out the most rare of recipes, and constantly insured the lowest possible prices for the people of WoW while making a measly 100-3000% profit for our troubles. We are the prime movers of the server economies. They complain endlessly that things are overpriced, they don't have enough gold to buy my Swift Spectral Tiger and it isn't fair, or that getting gold requires work and that they should be given more! And without us they wouldn't have access to very much of the things that make the game fun, for a price.

      So how's it feel to be part of the 1% in this game? Pretty damned good. You?

      And I gotta say it: So far all I've seen out of the OWS crowd are anti-Semitic, fascist, covetous bums. Of course banking and government are strange bedfellows in this country. Want to change it? Look at the campaign donations and get back to me. That will tell you who you SHOULD be protesting. Unfortunate people never obeyed the one law of the world: Follow the money.
    1. Valdron's Avatar
      Valdron -
      From the first video:"If you want to go hurt or kill people, go to Iraq."
      /Facepalm -_-
    1. Whitewolf's Avatar
      Whitewolf -
      Pardon me...does anyone have any Grey Poupon?
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      maybe we should estimate assets...

      "It is found that the world distribution of wealth is much more unequal than that of income"
      http://www.iariw.org/abstracts/2006/daviesa.pdf
    1. Thanateros's Avatar
      Thanateros -
      @Stede Nice answer ^^ It's nice to be part of the 1%, but you don't have to be corrupt or egoistic to keep up. Sure, if you want to max out your potential, you don't take hostages and everyone's your enemy. But on the other hand, if you are TOO aggressive, things like on my server will happen: the "working class" gets pissed and flames every of your chars. They know how you post and they keep spreading that ppl shouldn't buy from you. They unite to deep undercut you constantly, simply to ruin you. If it's only one or two ppl, you can buy them out - no problem. But if the mass is against you, you don't have a chance. So sometimes the "nice" way can get you higher than ellbowing your way to the top ;-)

      @OWS-Protests
      The crowd needs ONE enemy (it always was this way and it always will be). And it has been at different times in the long human history (not only the last 100 years and not only in one country!), that in conjunction with monetary problems, there have been anti-semitic riots. As a sidenote I probably should mention that i hate the jewish RELIGION (just like i hate the islamistic religion and just like i dislike any other monotheistic religion), but this anti-semitic bullshit going on has nothing to do with the problem we're facing atm.
      It IS the fault of those ultragreedy bums on the top of those financial institutes, and right now they are not charged for anything. They can play with money, with whole COUNTRIES, they influence politicians and they get away with it - because they have the money. I don't like that, and unlike in WoW (which is a GAME and is simply for entertaining), those bankers play with HUMANS and not with 0s and 1s. But are ppl able to work against it? Are ppl able to CHANGE anything? I highly doubt it. The power of money is too big. Those ppl on the top aren't idiots, they know exactly what they do - otherwise they wouldn't got this far. And i don't like to say it, but many of those protesting ppl don't really understand WHY they're protesting. There are always some idols, some leaders who organise those protests for a reason. But most of the other ppl only follow, without this big insight of what's going on.
    1. camo's Avatar
      camo -



      Ahh, collegehumor can't be embedded: http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6633406/we-are-the-1

      Well, I'm proud to be a capitalist.

      Those people in the videos are blocking the police and, at least in Germany, a police order, to move or what ever, has to be considered as (temporary) law. If you don't like it challenge it in court, but if you don't obey, you are breaking a law.
      Granted that doesn't justify brutal force like the punch but we don't know what was going on between her and the officer. It was an unprofessional move, but I dare to question whether it was without reason.
    1. Thanateros's Avatar
      Thanateros -
      I have been to some demonstrations here in Germany, some years ago. The police is only securing the demonstration - it's idiotic to attack THEM for simply doing their job. On the other hand, they have their opinion too and thus are bending the law a bit. For example, on one demonstration which has been sanctified by the city, other protestants who were against us made a sit-in and blocked our way. That was illegal, but the police didn't do anything except for asking them politely to stand up. They didn't, and the police didn't do anything against it.

      But i've also seen a heavier side of protests and police brutality. They (ab)used their power to make ppl suffer.

      I'd like to pull one string here... since capitalism is "the word", and politicians are dependant on how the economy vows (economy > politics, that's no secret), why should ppl try to challenge it in court? The court is instrumentalized just like politicians are. Why use the corrupted and idiotic instruments of a world you are demonstrating against?
    1. Stede's Avatar
      Stede -
      I'm not exactly egotistical. I have developed many of a cutting edge shortcut or logistical plan to max my time-efficiency. If someone wants to go toe-to-toe with me, they're be spending more time at it than me, and I will nuke their market.

      They must be assimilated.
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      ^ Resistance is futile!
    1. drockrock's Avatar
      drockrock -
      The big difference between OWS and what we do is we can't use our gold to change the world. Our gold is actually very limited in what it can be used for. If we could use our gold to buy levels, buy temporary immunity to damage, or even suspend certain clauses of the ToS, then I would consider us to be approaching the level of what the OWSers are accusing the 1% of being.