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  • Chinese Speak 101-All Your Goods Are Belong to Us!

    Every so often, an absolute gem is posted in the forums. In most cases, it'll get stickied by myself or a moderator, or even better, promoted to the front page to maximize exposure. Vanditor, a chinese-speaking member of the Consortium, put up a Chinese -> English translation thread to help goblins break that language barrier with foreign Chinese farmers. These threads are fairly common, but this one edges out all others because it teaches you how to speak naturally. As Vanditor put it, the translations are analogous to saying "Hey! What's up?" in lieu of the more formal alternatives. So check it out - and don't forget to hit up Vanditor with some rep!
    -Sterling


    Summary of this post: Teaching people to speak Chinese more naturally and teaching them some in-game specific phrases and sentences.

    What prompt me to write it was Pzychotix's post (http://consortium.stormspire.net/sho...Chinese-farmer) and the post in WoWGold teaching you how to speak (in its broadest sense...) Chinese. (http://www.wowgold-wowgold.com/Speak...rticle285.html) The post is good, but it is WAY too formal, you want to be more casual once you have "befriended" him. It's like we (well, you) say "Nice to meet you." when you first met, then as time passes you will be saying "How you doing?" or even "What's up?" Therefore this post is for you goblins to know a few casual Chinese words/phrases/sentences. Once you have learnt them there will be no stopping you for some profit!

    NB: Please use this in conjunction with WoWGold's post!


    (Words/Phrases in italic is better avoided saying, because frankly it makes you sound very formal and...wrong.)

    If you suspect someone is Chinese gold farmer, always open the chat with:

    Zhong Guo Ren? - Chinese?

    Trust me, most of us Chinese are very friendly to people who are of our own race, especially in an almost all English speaking environment.

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    Farewells:
    #88(yes, just numbers) - Bye bye
    #An Le/An A - Good night
    #bai bai - Bye bye
    #Ming Jian - See you tomorrow.
    #Hou Jian - See you the day after tomorrow.
    #Wo Xi Wang Ni You Hen Hao De Yi Tian - I hope you have a good day. (Please, for the love of god, DON'T use it. It sounds too formal.)

    Greetings:
    #Zao A! - Morning!
    #Shen Ti Hao Ma?- How are you? (Only used when meeting each other physically)
    #Za Yang? - S'up?
    #Chi Le? - Have you eaten?
    #Gan Ma Ne? - What'you doing?

    Question/Misunderstanding:

    #??? - What? Why? How?... (It's real easy, we like to use them question marks)

    Requesting Help:
    #Bang Xia Mang - Help me for a sec
    #Bang Ge Mang - Do me a favour

    Rude(making friends is better than making enemies, especially making farmer friends, so use with CAUTION):
    #Guen! - Get lost!
    #Sha Bi - R-tard/F-head.
    #Cao Ni Ma - F You.

    Appologies:
    #Bao Qian A - Sorry!
    #Wo Mei Guo De - I'm from US.
    #Wo Ou Zhou De - I'm from EU.
    #Wo Xiang Gang De - I'm from HK

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    Now the most important part: Request. Once you have mastered this you should at least get what you wanted and not a bunch of ???s.

    First, some number conversion:

    • Your XgYsZc = Their XgYsZc
    • 1k=1Q, 10k=1W (We do not use thousands as a measurement)
    • 1M/mil=100W, 10M=1000W or 1QW, 100M=1 Yi (if you ever need to go to 0.1 billion that is...)
    • 1 stack=1 zu, X(numbers)=X ge.

    #Wo Chu (Xg...) - I'll pay (the amount)...
    #Wo Yao XX Ge/Zu - I'll buy XX amount/stack.
    #Yi Zu Duo Shao (Qian) - How much (money) per stack?
    #Yi Ge Duo Shao (Qian) - How much (money) each?
    #You Pi (Mai) Me? - Got any leather (to sell)?
    #You Kuang Shi Me? - Got any ores?
    #You Kuang Tiao Me? - Got any bars?
    #You Bao Shi Me? - Got any gem?
    #You Yao Cao Me - Got any herb? (Might take the other guy sometime, because it is similar to something else...)
    #You Zi Zhuang Mai Me? - Do you sell any epic gears?
    #Neng Pian Yi Dian Me? - Can it be cheaper?
    #Wo (Quan) Yao Le - I'll have (all) of them.
    #Cheng Jiao - Deal.
    #Tai Gui Le - Too expensive.
    #Bu Gan - No deal.
    #Da Ge Zhe Ba - (Come on) give me a discount.
    #Quan Bao Le - All of them.
    #Ni You Gei Wo - COD them to me.
    #Ni You Duo Shao Wo Mai Duo Shao - I'll buy what ever amount you have.
    (I sincerely appologize for those enchanters, I have never asked for enchant mats back in Chinese WoW before...)

    Last but not least I'll teach you how to say thank you as well as to open up opportunities for repeat business:
    #Xie Le - Thanks.
    #En Ren A! - Saviour! (Use to express extremem gratitude.)
    #Wo Jia Ni Hao You Le - I have added you on my friend-list.
    #Xia Hui Wo Zai Zhao Ni Ha - I'll go to you next time too.
    #Ni Yi Hou Jiu Mai Wo Ba. - From now on sell them (only) to me.

    #If you have not disclose your nationality and manage to bluff your way as a Chinese they will probably ask this:
    "Ni QQ Hao Shi Duo Shao?" or "Ni You QQ Me?" or anything with "QQ" in it.
    Both sentences mean: "Do you have an QQ account?"
    QQ is an instant messaging system used widely in China, like MSN. You Wind Traders/Goblins are way above that and therefore unlikely to have one. Therefore you then will reply:
    "Bao Qian Wo Mei QQ." - "Sorry, I don't have one."
    This way your new-befriended Chinese farmer will not try to seek you out in RL and only keep it in-game. Plus you won't look stupid because you are stuck with that question. Now that's something the other post won't teach!

    That will be it for now. I will be updating them as soon as I can remember any other phrases. Many of you will probably ask: what's the difference? Well there is a lot. The difference between sounding natural and sounding like a 70 year old still going through Cultural Revolution can mean differences in price. Therefore I do urge everyone to learn some Chinese-for profit's sake.

    If anyone has any queries/problems just send me an PM and I will answer them ASAP.

    Now go out there and enjoy...the China Price!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Chinese Speak 101-All you goods are belong to us! started by Vanditor View original post
    Comments 24 Comments
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      Now, if you could only write up how to READ Chinese... lil' joke, my server has one of the highest Chinese player populations (Player, not farmer, well maybe that too). There are several extremely high populated guilds that are entirely Chinese, and they also speak only in Chinese in trade, using the Chinese logographic script which no one has except them. I'm actually amazed they can read both the Latin alphabet as well as their classic Georgian alphabet to communicate.

      Since I don't have the font, all I see in trade (every other spam) is "3W ?" and lots of question marks because they're typing in script and unrecognized letters come up as "?".

      Talk about having an advantage with the farmers...
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zerohour View Post
      Now, if you could only write up how to READ Chinese... lil' joke, my server has one of the highest Chinese player populations (Player, not farmer, well maybe that too). There are several extremely high populated guilds that are entirely Chinese, and they also speak only in Chinese in trade, using the Chinese logographic script which no one has except them. I'm actually amazed they can read both the Latin alphabet as well as their classic Georgian alphabet to communicate.

      Since I don't have the font, all I see in trade (every other spam) is "3W ?" and lots of question marks because they're typing in script and unrecognized letters come up as "?".

      Talk about having an advantage with the farmers...
      Than the logical next step would be to get the fonts that they use.

      Next step? Some design a translation addon
    1. Drrwho's Avatar
      Drrwho -
      Vanditor, so If I wanted to post something in trade chat that I was buying, say, Elementium Ore, at 30g/stack, as many stacks as they had, would this be what I would say?

      "Wo Yao Elementium Ore, 30g/Zu. Ni You Duo Shao Wo Mai Duo Shao"

      I'm guessing there might be a shorter way of saying that, since I'm repeating the "I'll buy" part twice?

      I thought about making a macro for buying Elementium Ore, and include English and Chinese in it. What is your thought/advice on that? Is that a bad idea or would it work?

      Btw... awesome post!! Love it.
    1. sok's Avatar
      sok -
      My first time in this forum and this post was the very first one jumped into my wide-vision Asian eyes. Couple things was bothering me so I'll just make some unnecessary corrections.

      #Ming Jian - See you tomorrow.
      #Hou Jian - See you the day after tomorrow.

      These two should be Ming Tian Jian/ Hou Tian Jian. without that word in the middle, the translation above doesnt mean anything.

      And I recommend:

      bai bai/ bye bye
      en?/ huh?what?
      bu hao yi si/ sorry
      Neng Pian Yi Dian Me? - Can it be cheaper?
      Wo (Quan) Yao Le - I'll have (all) of them.
      Xie Le - Thanks.
      Cheng Jiao - Deal.
      Tai Gui Le - Too expensive.
      Da Ge Zhe Ba - (Come on) give me a discount.
      Quan Bao Le - All of them.

      These should prevent you tone jumping between formal/informal. Keep conversation as simple as possible.

      As for enchant mats:
      you mei you fu mo cai liao?
      Do you have enchanting materials?
    1. sok's Avatar
      sok -
      Quote Originally Posted by Drrwho View Post
      Vanditor, so If I wanted to post something in trade chat that I was buying, say, Elementium Ore, at 30g/stack, as many stacks as they had, would this be what I would say?

      "Wo Yao Elementium Ore, 30g/Zu. Ni You Duo Shao Wo Mai Duo Shao"

      I'm guessing there might be a shorter way of saying that, since I'm repeating the "I'll buy" part twice?

      I thought about making a macro for buying Elementium Ore, and include English and Chinese in it. What is your thought/advice on that? Is that a bad idea or would it work?

      Btw... awesome post!! Love it.
      "Ni You Duo Shao Wo Mai Duo Shao" roughly translates to "if you have whatever amount, I'll buy whatever amount". It's a legit way of saying it and off the top of my head cant think of any better replacements. "you duo shao mai duo shao" works, ignoring "you" and "me" and basically shorten it to "buying all you got"

      Will mark this page in case people actually need this kind of random information..
    1. Vanditor's Avatar
      Vanditor -
      Quote Originally Posted by sok View Post
      My first time in this forum and this post was the very first one jumped into my wide-vision Asian eyes. Couple things was bothering me so I'll just make some unnecessary corrections.

      #Ming Jian - See you tomorrow.
      #Hou Jian - See you the day after tomorrow.

      These two should be Ming Tian Jian/ Hou Tian Jian. without that word in the middle, the translation above doesnt mean anything.

      And I recommend:

      bai bai/ bye bye
      en?/ huh?what?
      bu hao yi si/ sorry
      Neng Pian Yi Dian Me? - Can it be cheaper?
      Wo (Quan) Yao Le - I'll have (all) of them.
      Xie Le - Thanks.
      Cheng Jiao - Deal.
      Tai Gui Le - Too expensive.
      Da Ge Zhe Ba - (Come on) give me a discount.
      Quan Bao Le - All of them.

      These should prevent you tone jumping between formal/informal. Keep conversation as simple as possible.

      As for enchant mats:
      you mei you fu mo cai liao?
      Do you have enchanting materials?
      Thank you sok! One of my intention of posting the thread was hoping to draw brilliant minded people to add/improve this thread.
      #Ming Jian - See you tomorrow.
      #Hou Jian - See you the day after tomorrow.

      These two should be Ming Tian Jian/ Hou Tian Jian. without that word in the middle, the translation above doesnt mean anything.
      I am aware that an extra character "tian" should be used in both case. While “ming jian" is not wrong (it's just spoken language), but after some thought I think for written/typed language is best used with your edition, because I am a native speaker I automatically assume he/she will understand. Thank you for that correction indeed.

      As for enchant mats:
      you mei you fu mo cai liao?
      Do you have enchanting materials?
      Yep, that is exactly how you say when you want some materials for enchant.

      As for a general point. I do suspect we will see less and less Chinese farmers as bots are a more cost efficient way for gold sellers. But it would still be nice to get the best deal while you can.

      P.S. If I was to update my thread with new materials using "Edit" option, would it show up on this too? Thank you.

      Vanditor
    1. Sterling's Avatar
      Sterling -
      Very cool of you Sok .

      Quote Originally Posted by Vanditor View Post
      P.S. If I was to update my thread with new materials using "Edit" option, would it show up on this too? Thank you.

      Vanditor
      Nope, but I could edit the front page article for you.
    1. Pzychotix's Avatar
      Pzychotix -
      Oh man, I didn't see this happening. I'll admit, I wrote that inital post on a whim, and then got burnt out of gold making shortly after so I never gave that thread the support it deserved. My thanks go out to you, Vanditor, for taking that post and going crazy with it.
    1. Aeg's Avatar
      Aeg -
      I think this just got me some awesome deals on a bunch of ore from a long time farmer I have been unable to communicate with up till now. I won't know till I see my mailbox though. Although he did ask me if I needed gold also so he might be gone shortly now...
    1. vom's Avatar
      vom -
      How do you actually spot these guys?(no bots) camp the AH entrance and look for weird names ?:P
    1. Belzebutinov's Avatar
      Belzebutinov -
      Names of AH posting toons are your best bet. If you see someone posting x,000 of any item - leathers, ores,... - regularly and at a cheap price, you can be pretty sure they are either major farmers or botters; either way, you can FL them and contact them when you see them. I'd recommend first greeting them in your server's language, and if they don't seem to respond, then go ahead with Vanditor's great stuff
    1. Imp's Avatar
      Imp -
      I found http://hktv.cc/cd/hanyupinyin/ a helpful site to get an idea of what they are trying to tell you. Maybe someone else find it useful.
    1. Kithe's Avatar
      Kithe -
      I found the original post in this thread to be very valuable when dealing with an ore seller a few month's ago. I managed to keep up my front for almost a month before the chap began to get more elaborate on his conversations.

      After arranging a price each time, I ensured I took all of his stock on each deal, didn't keep him waiting at all (except to mail ore to an alt every so often) and sure enough each subsequent time we did a deal it went very smoothly. Thanks for the guide!

      88
    1. Seidal's Avatar
      Seidal -
      Quote Originally Posted by Imp View Post
      I found Hanyu Pinyin Chinese-English Online Dictionary and Translation a helpful site to get an idea of what they are trying to tell you. Maybe someone else find it useful.
      Super helpful! Granted, I had a few years of Mandarin classes.. Just made my first farmer friend today!
      20g/stack of elementium and some elementium geodes as gifts <3 <3
    1. dbMjolnir's Avatar
      dbMjolnir -
      Have my babies! This is awesome. I haven't run into a gold farmer since TBC but I have the urge to go hunting for one now. Hahaha
    1. Riddance's Avatar
      Riddance -
      This thread helped me to get my first cheap chinese ore today Big big thanks

      At the end he said something like "Xia dao l". Anyone knows what this means?
    1. Antics's Avatar
      Antics -
      I bought a bunch of cheap ore off a guy in trade about 5 minutes ago. As we were trading i tabbed out and pulled this page up. I typed out Zoung gou ren? He responded with "wo bu shi" and "mail shi shen me"

      What do these translate to?
    1. Hal2000's Avatar
      Hal2000 -
      I tried to get myself a macro set up to ask for people to COD at 25g/stack and I'm not sure how to make it more specific. This is what I have so far
      "You Kuang Shi Me? Wo Chu 25g/zu Ni You Gei Wo. Xie Le"
      Does anyone know how far off I am?
    1. Treeroy's Avatar
      Treeroy -
      Haha, this thread is brilliant! What an initiative. ^^

      Unfortunately here on the EU realms we rarely see Chinese farmers (I've been playing for several years and have met about 2) but if I ever do meet one again, I'll make sure I alt-tab to this post. =D
    1. joeku's Avatar
      joeku -
      lol. Cool post! very useful. Thank you.