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  • And So The Pyrite Ore Debate Comes to and End? Black Iron Ore Datamined!

    BAM, as Stede just reported, a new Ore has been datamined from beta servers, and it's getting people talking. And according to its item data string, Black Iron Ore is prospectable!



    Still, I'm not entirely convinced that Pyrite will lose its value. I'd wager that Pyrite will indeed prospect into epic gems, and Black Iron Ore possibly prospecting a higher rate of epic gems, and possibly even legendary gems. This follows the progression we've seen in past expansions;

    Vanilla: No gems.
    TBC: Rare gems - very accessible. Epic gems - very inaccessible.
    WotLK: Rare gems abundant. Epic gems - very accessible.
    Cataclysm: Epic gems - very accessible. Legendary gems - very inaccessible.

    This is also in line with the legendary item progression. Indeed, three legendary items have been datamined from 4.1 and 4.2, which is totally unprecedented. Blizzard also mentioned that Cataclysm may be the first expansion to feature an Artifact quality item;

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarhym
    [...]perhaps even an artifact quality item, but we have to be careful with these. Don't expect stat budgets to be higher than legendary weapons. Artifacts may simply provide aesthetic benefits or cool on-use effects.
    There you have it folks. You heard it here first. Legendary Gems from Black Iron Ore!

    Sterling beaming out!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: And So The Pyrite Ore Debate Comes to and End? Black Iron Ore Datamined! started by Sterling View original post
    Comments 19 Comments
    1. Mugsley's Avatar
      Mugsley -
      I thought the initial definition of Artifact quality was "1 per server"? I can only hope that changes.

      This is very interesting, and gives a little bit more fuel to my "it's called Pyrite for a reason" debate.
    1. Kathroman's Avatar
      Kathroman -
      Artifact items / legendary gems might also be just the thing to win people back from RIFT.

      Good move on Blizzard's part, imo. Black Iron Ore FTW!!
    1. Traumatic's Avatar
      Traumatic -
      By patch 4.3 we're all going to be rocking Artifact quality gems, lest we be considered scrubs who only have the Legendary ones. I, for one, welcome this change.
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      TBC gems were very accessible, almost overly accessible - provided you were in a guild that raided and did it well. If you were getting past 2 bosses in Battle for MH, you were definitely flush in gems. The dropped like candy in BT. I was sporting epic gems by late summer of TBC release. With the release of 2.4 they became the reason to complete your daily heroic.

      Hmm, I see a distinct nomenclature similarity... Dark Iron Ore... Molten Core ... Black Iron Ore... Firelands... The Firelands instance (per Blizzcon 2010) had the feel of an upgraded Molten Core - a raid with a definite flow. Back then you collected stacks of the ore from random veins inside the Core just so you could make a trip to BRD and make bars so you could gear your tanks for Rag and Vael. I'm betting dollars to doughnuts that Firelands will have mineral veins scattered throughout that will mine both the ore and the rare epic gems. Don't get too excited because Blizz used to have a habit of doing this...

      So here's the call: You will have to bring a miner with 535+ Mining skill (enchants, just like Vanilla) to Firelands. Blacksmiths are going to be charged with making the new tank/dps/healing gear, so because gear > gems, these frickin' ores are going to be on par with ridonkulous in price as all the guild leaders with half a brain are going to require gearing their tanks and healers first. These ores are not going to be 2 fer 1 smelting either, count on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they follow the Dark Iron recipe requiring a gem and elements.

      This will make pugging incredibly dicey, because all the miners are going to be falling over themselves to get to the veins first, pulling all the trash mobs and wiping the groups. I can't wait to hear about it!
    1. Unregistered's Avatar
      Unregistered -
      One of the better April's Fool jokes I've seen today! :-)
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      It's unfortunate, but I don't participate in April 1st jokes. I expand on them!
    1. Miggity's Avatar
      Miggity -
      I hate you guys. I almost started selling my entire stock of pyrite.
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Miggity View Post
      I hate you guys. I almost started selling my entire stock of pyrite.
      Free thought, its a good thing
    1. Jini's Avatar
      Jini -
      Guess we now know this isn't serious gold making site.
    1. Sponsor's Avatar
      Sponsor -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jini View Post
      Guess we now know this isn't serious gold making site.
      And blizzard isn't a serious game company, and wowhead isn't a serious informational site, ... ;P
    1. Random's Avatar
      Random -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jini View Post
      Guess we now know this isn't serious gold making site.
      Don't know about you but ima make some serious gold from this.
    1. Stede's Avatar
      Stede -
      I mean - it was just Sterling's thoughts on what could happen. It's all talk until we see epics on the PTR. Black Iron was definitely datamined during the Cata beta - but that could mean anything at this point.
    1. Drrwho's Avatar
      Drrwho -
      And as this wasn't something plastered all over MMO-Champ, I don't think this is an April Fool's joke. I can totally see a new ore like this being introduced. Just as Zerohour mentioned, Dark Iron Ore was the new ore in Molten Core. And now, Firelands is a somewhat revamped type of MC zone, and Ragnaros is back. It would make sense to have a new ore, Black Iron Ore, come from Firelands, to keep that theme going.

      And yea, Black Iron Ore will cost ridiculous amounts of gold initially and for a good while into 4.2.
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Drrwho View Post
      And as this wasn't something plastered all over MMO-Champ, I don't think this is an April Fool's joke. I can totally see a new ore like this being introduced. Just as Zerohour mentioned, Dark Iron Ore was the new ore in Molten Core. And now, Firelands is a somewhat revamped type of MC zone, and Ragnaros is back. It would make sense to have a new ore, Black Iron Ore, come from Firelands, to keep that theme going.

      And yea, Black Iron Ore will cost ridiculous amounts of gold initially and for a good while into 4.2.
      Yea but this isn't new. It was added in 4.0.3 and...errr....deactivated. And it could easily just have been a joke from the "gold community". Either way I'm stickin with pyrite stockpiling.
    1. Mugsley's Avatar
      Mugsley -
      I'm sticking to my Wrath strategy: buy raw epic gems and cut for profit. I got burned hard trying to stockpile Titanium ore in the lead-up. This way, absolutely no risk involved with the ore.

      Even with the cut/flip strategy, epic gems were one of two main income streams that pushed me to the old goldcap.
    1. Xsinthis's Avatar
      Xsinthis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mugsley View Post
      I'm sticking to my Wrath strategy: buy raw epic gems and cut for profit. It got burned hard trying to stockpile Titanium ore in the lead-up. This way, absolutely no risk involved with the ore.

      Even with the cut/flip strategy, epic gems were one of two main income streams that pushed me to the old goldcap.
      I used this strategy too in Wrath, for a long time I had a tank who sold queues sell me epics I want from the badges he earned. Good times.
    1. calianna's Avatar
      calianna -
      There are no plans for epic gems in this expansion.
    1. Zerohour's Avatar
      Zerohour -
      Quote Originally Posted by calianna View Post
      There are no plans for epic gems in this expansion.
      Very nice, I will go with this!

      Hehe, I had an in depth discussion with a new guild member about Pyrite speculation. Nobody really knows who I am on the server, except a few who salivate in the guild bank windows and ask if they can have the spare Tsunami trinket because we have so many (:rollseyes: yes, I allow them to view the wealth of the guild bank but no touching!) and I must be rich because we have all the bank slots.... I found it amusing that everyone seems to be stockpiling and are so steadfast that the introduction of a new ore JUST CAN'T HAPPEN!!!1! Oh and they joined during Wrath.

      Blizzard has introduced new types of veins and it's always been in raid instances (MC, ZG, AQ, BfMH). I still believe that they reverted to their roots of giving the best to the best and will follow up with availability to everyone else later. It's up to all the server monopolizers to keep this stuff out of reach when it is implemented, except for the very wealthy. Ah la Large Obsidian Shards.

      And I agree with whoever, this is not a serious gold making site, please train your mining and herbalism and help a starving WoW Industrialist.
    1. Kathroman's Avatar
      Kathroman -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zerohour View Post
      And I agree with whoever, this is not a serious gold making site, please train your mining and herbalism and help a starving WoW Industrialist.
      Seconded. You will be paid well for your efforts!