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  • JMTC Blogging Carnival - What's Your Cataclysm Gold Strategy?

    I haven't actively participated in any JMTC's blogging carnivals so far, but December 2nd's topic is right down my alley; Cataclysm Gold Strategy.

    Let's give it a shot!

    The basic plan of attack is straightforward, and has already been discussed by several bloggers:
    • Farm and sell grossly overpriced ores and herbs in the early days of Cataclysm.
    • Feed the Goblin/Worgen population stockpiled BoEs, enchanting scrolls, Glyphs and bags.
    • Unload various stockpiled items at ridiculous ROI.

    Beyond that, I have a few little tricks up my sleeve. Since I plan on being (hopefully) first to 85, I will have exclusive access to new gem cuts before 99.9% of my competitors. In WotLK, the situation was much the same, except that I made a huge mistake; purchasing the best cuts first. 5-6 days after release, my best seller was a hybrid cut, vastly out-selling popular cuts because there was competition.

    If you find yourself in a situation where you have to purchase a JC recipe in the early days of Cataclysm, do not purchase a popular cut. Stay away from: Solid, Delicate, Bold, Rigid, Quick and Brilliant (though this one is probably trained). You don't want terrible cuts either, such as resilience/mp5. I imagine your best bet would be hybrid cuts, such as crit/intellect, hit/agility or stamina/strength.

    Second, it seems that most of us have completely overlooked (yet another) Goblin/Worgen alt cash cow; crafted quest items. Early Cataclysm will be your best opportunity to gouge people for items such as and (there's a reason it's labeled "Overcharged"). Everyone will be busy leveling their alts, running circles in Vash'ir and drinking orange crush, so there won't be much competition in this department. 150-200g for an Overcharged Capacitor? Deal.

    This brings me to a more interesting topic. Do you remember the early days of the WotLK Auction House? I sure do. The first at the Thunderlord AH was sold for 15,000g and the first epic LW craft (I forget which) for 12,500g. On my server, I was the first to craft and sell a for 26,000g. The margins on each of these items was insane - 70/80/40% respectively. Players are willing to pay a huge premium for high ticket items if it means getting an edge - and Cataclysm offers the best opportunities for crafters we've seen in a long time. Let me explain.

    Cataclysm - A New Era for Crafters

    In WotLK, all high ticket items require 1-2 . Need an epic piece crafted? No big deal, just head over to the Auction House and pick up all the required materials, including the Orbs. It's then just a matter of finding a crafter and tip him/her 20g. Epics were cheap - the Orbs are easy to come by and easy to farm.

    Let's shift our attention to Cataclysm. has been replaced by . See the item tooltip? Bind on pickup. I'm sure you know what this means - crafters will control the market price for their crafts. In WotLK, the buyer controls the market because he can provide all the materials.

    The best part is that s won't be that common. Tanks are getting 1-shotted in Cataclysm heroics. Gone are the days of blasting through instances. In Cataclysm, heroics require more skill and the supply of Orbs won't be so ample. The demand for Orbs should also remain steady - crafts require up to 3 Orbs each, up from 1-2.

    Conclusion: Leatherworkers and Blacksmiths will have huge opportunities in the first 1-2 months of Cataclysm due to the new crafting system. If you plan on dropping a profession on your main any time soon, you should consider one of these crafting professions. Surely Jewelcrafting and Enchanting will remain profitable, but Inscription is not looking very promising at all. While I'm here, I might as well link the new crafts;

    Leatherworking












    Blacksmithing

















    To me, Blacksmithing is looking especially attractive, as it offers a few more investment alternatives once I've got all the epics crafted (which might be difficult to achieve). I did plan on dropping Inscription, this just puts the last nail in the coffin.

    And that's my Cataclysm gold strategy!

    Thanks for reading, Sterling beaming out!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: JMTC Blogging Carnival - What's Your Cataclysm Gold Strategy? started by Sterling View original post
    Comments 14 Comments
    1. Brouck's Avatar
      Brouck -
      Sold, I've been trying to figure out what profession to make my main (Warlock) blacksmith it is!
    1. turbare's Avatar
      turbare -
      I'm sure tailoring is better for a caster class, after all, it's a crafting profession as well and you might want to use some items you craft while leveling.
    1. Gnomage's Avatar
      Gnomage -
      Why only leatherworking and blacksmithing? You don't think tailoring will be equally profitable? Why / why not? I haven't played Beta, so I don't know much about this stuff.
    1. Sterling's Avatar
      Sterling -
      Quote Originally Posted by turbare View Post
      I'm sure tailoring is better for a caster class, after all, it's a crafting profession as well and you might want to use some items you craft while leveling.
      I'm sure you could use a few items you craft while leveling, which might shave off a few minutes from 80-85 but that's a bout it. There are no BOP items crafted, so the benefit of picking up tailoring as a caster a pretty minimal.

      Quote Originally Posted by Gnomage View Post
      Why only leatherworking and blacksmithing? You don't think tailoring will be equally profitable? Why / why not? I haven't played Beta, so I don't know much about this stuff.
      All of the beta information is on WoWhead. Tailoring uses as a "key component" to all its crafts. It can be obtained from:

      [spell]Dream of Azshara[/spell]
      [spell]Dream of deepholm[/spell]
      [spell]Dream of destruction[/spell]
      [spell]Dream of hyjal[/spell]
      [spell]Dream of ragnaros[/spell]
      [spell]Dream of skywall[/spell]

      s will be far more valuable than the other required mats to make Dreamcloth. Surely the crafts will be valuable, but nowhere near Blacksmithing and Leatherworking.
    1. Gnomage's Avatar
      Gnomage -
      Oh

      Well, my mage is already a tailor / enchant and I don't plan on changing, so I suppose I will just make due with what I have. I have plenty of money to level another profession, but I will be leveling and gearing to be available for raids as quick as possible for my guild.. Friends before gold.
    1. Stede's Avatar
      Stede -
      Gotta say I disagree. If you have the JC market to yourself (i.e. negligible competition), you need to maximize how you cash in on it. People will be buying blue, yellow, and red cuts before they worry about purple, green, or orange ones. Keep in mind that all JCs will follow this path of getting cuts - which is good for you if you're out in front - because you'll always be a step or two ahead.
    1. Sterling's Avatar
      Sterling -
      Quote Originally Posted by Stede View Post
      Gotta say I disagree. If you have the JC market to yourself (i.e. negligible competition), you need to maximize how you cash in on it. People will be buying blue, yellow, and red cuts before they worry about purple, green, or orange ones. Keep in mind that all JCs will follow this path of getting cuts - which is good for you if you're out in front - because you'll always be a step or two ahead.
      I used the same logic in WotLK, but ended up getting burned on it.

      Hit is the most important stat in-game for all classes, until hit cap. Given the relatively low stats entry-level gear provides, raiders and PvPers find themselves predominantly gemming hit. Yellow slots will be gemmed with hit, red slots will be gemmed with hit/dps, and blue slots will be gemmed with hit/blue stat. None of these are pure gems, besides yellow. I realize these colors have been changed in Cataclysm - I'm just trying to illustrate a point.

      This is why hybrid gems were easily my best sellers. Every other JC was throwing up delicate, bold, solid, rigid, while I was the only supplier for the more desired gems like glinting/luminous.
    1. calianna's Avatar
      calianna -
      FYI <--- hit is blue now

      Edit: The list of hit gems are

      Blue
      just hit - Rigid

      Green
      dodge/hit - Nimble
      crit/hit - Piercing
      mastery/hit - Sensei's
      haste/hit - Lightning

      Purple
      expertise/hit - Accurate
      str/hit - Etched
      agi/hit - Glinting
      int/hit - Veiled

      I suspect early on, the big seller's will be Rigid in blue, Sensei's for the yellow (and perhaps even for blue) and Etched/Glinting/Veiled for red based on class/spec.
    1. Sterling's Avatar
      Sterling -
      Quote Originally Posted by calianna View Post
      FYI <--- hit is blue now

      Edit: The list of hit gems are

      Blue
      just hit - Rigid

      Green
      dodge/hit - Nimble
      crit/hit - Piercing
      mastery/hit - Sensei's
      haste/hit - Lightning

      Purple
      expertise/hit - Accurate
      str/hit - Etched
      agi/hit - Glinting
      int/hit - Veiled
      I suspect Sensei's, Accurate and Veiled will be very good sellers.

      Edit: Reasoning is that priority for melee dps is hit -> expertise -> mastery -> str/agi (unless they changed mechanics significantly)
    1. Zenit's Avatar
      Zenit -
      Not sure if you all are aware that there is not longer hit cap but rather a scaling hit "cap" where you will need more hit points as one transition to the next raid tier.
    1. Gnomeozurich's Avatar
      Gnomeozurich -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
      s will be far more valuable than the other required mats to make Dreamcloth. Surely the crafts will be valuable, but nowhere near Blacksmithing and Leatherworking.
      Dreamcloth has a big old cooldown -- you can only make 6 a week. I think that will make it quite valuable. Whether it will be as valuable as Chaos orbs is hard to say. The real problem with tailoring is that your weekly profit on epic crafting is basically capped at whatever you can command for your 6 dreamcloths.

      IMO, professions would make more money if the items were BoP. We'll make much more per item the way it will be, but our ability to craft items will be much more limited. Note, in wrath you had those huge 40-50% profits, and all the mats were BoE! So you could sell as many as you were willing to risk crafting for those mat prices.

      Now we'll have much bigger profits per item, but a huge percentage of it will be profits from grinding chaos orbs rather than from crafting. If you want to make 100k from epic crafting, it will no longer be a matter of getting the recipes and then buying up mats on the ah. You will have to *grind* orbs. Early on this won't matter much, as we'll probably want to be running heroics and raids that drop them anyway. When new content starts coming out, OTOH, I hope they will change it, as they did with primal nethers toward the end of TBC.
    1. Athkatla's Avatar
      Athkatla -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
      I used the same logic in WotLK, but ended up getting burned on it.

      Hit is the most important stat in-game for all classes, until hit cap. Given the relatively low stats entry-level gear provides, raiders and PvPers find themselves predominantly gemming hit. Yellow slots will be gemmed with hit, red slots will be gemmed with hit/dps, and blue slots will be gemmed with hit/blue stat. None of these are pure gems, besides yellow. I realize these colors have been changed in Cataclysm - I'm just trying to illustrate a point.

      This is why hybrid gems were easily my best sellers. Every other JC was throwing up delicate, bold, solid, rigid, while I was the only supplier for the more desired gems like glinting/luminous.
      I don't think this will necessarily still be the case now that Reforging is available. Most class guides that I've read suggest gemming for your primary stat (Strength, Agi, Int, etc) and reforging to meet hit/expertise caps.
    1. Brouck's Avatar
      Brouck -
      Quote Originally Posted by turbare View Post
      I'm sure tailoring is better for a caster class, after all, it's a crafting profession as well and you might want to use some items you craft while leveling.
      Yeah the Lock is already a tailor, was choosing her second profession. Only two I don't have at max level were BS and Engineering
    1. Sterling's Avatar
      Sterling -
      Quote Originally Posted by Athkatla View Post
      I don't think this will necessarily still be the case now that Reforging is available. Most class guides that I've read suggest gemming for your primary stat (Strength, Agi, Int, etc) and reforging to meet hit/expertise caps.
      I never thought of this, wonder if the typical first tier gear will cover all the hit needed.