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    You setup different shopping sniping operations depending on what type of item it is, I have "20% snipe", "30% snipe", "40% snipe", etc... operations using one custom price source, and then I duplicated them only changing the custom price source for legion items (Calling them 20% LSnipe, etc...) and assigning those operations to legion item groups.

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    What snipe % would you assign to which type of item/group? I'm a bit lost on that part. :/ I'm guessing it can be higher for crafting mats but lower for the real expensive things like mounts. Any help, or guideline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarpixie View Post
    What snipe % would you assign to which type of item/group? I'm a bit lost on that part. :/ I'm guessing it can be higher for crafting mats but lower for the real expensive things like mounts. Any help, or guideline?
    Generally, the more expensive the item the less chance anyone would underprice it. I set the snipe % quite high for high-value items, but still below the standard deviation to make sure I can actually re-sell it for a profit. The opposite for low price items, or items with high amount of supply and demand, as the more supply the higher the chance someone severely underprice the items.

    However, you should also keep in mind that items with a high market value does not equal items with an equally high demand. Same with supply.

    This is also something people exploit, they buy a couple of something for market value with a very low demand and then resell one of them for an extreme price (Usually several thousands of gold for something actually worth maybe 3g-100g). This bumps up the market value by an insane amount if it's an item rarely bought, and then they post the rest of the same item for what would historically be above market value, and now because you're sitting there on sniper, sniper tells you they are really cheap and a bargain (Using the current artificially high market value), when in reality someone just exploited you to buy something normally worthless or cheap. If you don't setup your sniper groups correctly or make custom price checks for this (For example comparing historical price to current), you will have to watch out for this manually all the time.

    Just setting a snipe % on most of the groups will almost guarantee you false-positives. You really need to make your own groups of items you know will resell for a higher price then what you buy them for, otherwise you will need to make that decision every time something shows up on your sniper.

    Sniping is not easy to set up (At least for it to run automatically without constant decision making), and it requires you to invest in getting an understanding of what is good to snipe and what is not, and figuring out how to automate it without including the false positives.

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    This is why you never use server market value without also factoring in the region/global price of an item. Server market value for low volume items is way too easily manipulated or unintentionally blown up to ridiculous values by inflationary pricing formulas.

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    Is it possible to get an export of items in groups with included subgroup structure and operations? Like, one export. Because now with previous groups and the new ones (Legion) it's kind of a mess.

    EDIT: I just reorganized all the groups the way I like it and integrated all the new Legion groups into the old ones. Took me roughly 6h but I am finally done and now I realize you cannot simply export this. I tried exporting my Legion World Drops group which contains all the Legion World Drops on page 53 of this post and after ~5 min of screen freeze I got the code but 2 sec after my game disconnected from heavy load, I guess.
    Is it possible to backup all this somehow without having to export all the groups pretty much one by one? Backing up WTF folder should work right? Since all add-on options including your UI setup are saved there.
    Last edited by Foxies; December 22nd, 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostcreep View Post
    Generally, the more expensive the item the less chance anyone would underprice it. I set the snipe % quite high for high-value items, but still below the standard deviation to make sure I can actually re-sell it for a profit. The opposite for low price items, or items with high amount of supply and demand, as the more supply the higher the chance someone severely underprice the items.
    How do you incorporate STD into a sniping formula or any formula in TSM for that matter? Do you look it up in the TUJ addon and then just put it in that way, or is there a way to automate it?

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    If you have the tuj addon installed just type /TSM sources into chat - this will list all the sources available to use including those from tuj
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    Recipe: Flask of the Titans was missing for me from NLA Alchemy Recipes.

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    The salvaged group within the appearance group isn't fully optimised yet. It contains some stuff that comes from outcast's cashe instead of the salvage crate like:

    I could be wrong here however as it might have been available throught the crates in the past do.
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    None of the legion world drop strings seem to import correctly. (fresh profile)
    I've tried multiple times and every time the items end up in the parent/ungrouped items section. All the other strings work just fine!

    Edit" I've encountered some additional items in my parent/ungrouped tab. Items such as: Abandoned dark iron ring,abyssal cloth/leather/mail/plate legguards,accanthia's lost pendant and freezing band.

    Edit 2: Additionally to remaining in the ungrouped tab the items also seem to get added to the sniper group parent tab instead of creating a specific sub tab like all the other strings.
    Last edited by Naxxramaskid; February 26th, 2017 at 09:35 PM.

 

 

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