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    Guide: RP Realm Goblineering

    Gold making tricks and tips specific to roleplay realms.


    Why try goldmaking on an RP realm?

    A key difference between RP realms and regular PvE/PvP servers is that many items that hold little to no value elsewhere can be used for roleplay, hence increasing demand. Folks use different sets of gear beyond their usual transmog for various roleplay situations. Guild outfits, casual outfits, formal attire, work clothes, fighting gear, etc. Fun items and gear that might be worthless or only bought by the occasional bank toon elsewhere are not only used, but can often be sold for far more on an RP server. Even if you choose not to participate in roleplay, seeing others around you interact can make the game world feel more dynamic and provide entertainment for those long stretches of prospecting ore.


    1. Starter Funds: Beginning at Low Level

    Strip down (and not for Goldshire)

    Roll a fresh alt and take a look at what you're wearing right out of the box. Starter gear (robes in particular) is a nice way to build some coin to use for flipping. Kill a few mobs, do a little questing, or bark a battlepet to get enough change for the posting fees and sell off your starting gear. Some pieces sell 50-100g easily, others you might just vendor. Use TUJ/WoWuction and your best judgment. With BoA's now cross-realm, most of you will not have to worry about leaving your new banker nekkid.


    Lowbie vendor clothing

    Common shirts, dresses, and gear pieces from starting zone/city vendors can often be sold for huge mark-ups. Some tend to have higher demand then others, so when in doubt go by the old standard "Is it hot on a female toon and/or Blood Elf male?" Set the minimum sell price on your TSM addon to be based on vendor buy price. If you are unsure how to do that, take a look at TSM 2.0 Transmog Guide: Pricing Subgroups and Operations Scroll down to the section labeled "Vendor cost + % of vendor cost."
    A few of the vendors to visit:

    • Lisbeth Schneider for and other items. The black shirt is sometime posted in high volume Alliance side on RP servers. If such is the case then try using the remote auction house app to sell it on Neutral AH or have a buddy/second account move it Horde side.
    • Kiro for leather harnesses like .
    • Faraden Thelryn for and other Unadorned chain pieces, and Jainthess Thelryn nearby for Sun Cured leather set.



    2. Pick Your Professions

    I'm not going to get into basic profession guides as those can be found elsewhere on the site. Instead we'll be looking at clothing, transmog, and consumable items that can be crafted for roleplay. If I've missed something you feel should be on the list, post a comment.

    Tailoring

    Craftable RP wear:
    , , , , , , , , , , . Winter Veil outfits. Shirts of all kinds.


    Noteworthy mog items:
    Cindercloth set: , , . Patterns can be hard to obtain, but these items are a consistent seller for me. Red/gold/black version of the ever popular Black Mageweve set. . , , , . Mageweave cloth tends to be cheap and plentiful. Some of the items I regularly craft and sell from mageweave include: , , , , ,


    Leatherworking

    Craftable RP wear:


    Noteworthy mog items:
    http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=903, , http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1053, (or any of the similar craftable hats), ,

    Blacksmithing

    Noteworthy mog items:
    http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1055 can be marketed to those looking for "Blood Knight" themed sets. Be aware the chest for that set is soulbound, but there is a BoE drop version. http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=11830 for Stormwind guard sets. If you have the old patterns for and , they seem to sell around 2-5k a piece. can be advertised as a nice item to match Enchanted Thorium or some of the pieces from http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=335. http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1170 is usually cheap to craft and sells at a nice mark-up. . Various weapons like .

    Inscription

    Cosmetic glyphs
    Any glyph that gives your character a cool visual effect or a spell that might be used in roleplay.

    Staves and off-hands
    , how I love thee. I'm still trying to use up the massive amount of Inferno Ink leftover from the Cata fortune card enterprise. Picking up volatiles when they are cheap and crafting the key is a low cost move with nice returns. has a nice look as well, but costs more to make and seems to move a bit slower. Any of the BoE staves added with MoP are decent for transmog, and material costs are typically low.

    : 4 different colors of wolf are possible, but the color you proc when crafting is random. I've had good luck in the past barking these in trade, with the black wolf version being the most in-demand, but may have devalued them a bit. I will test the market on this again soon and post my results.

    Origami
    Various consumable "pets" and items can be made, such as and

    Tarot Cards
    Tarot card decks can be turned in for gear to sell. and from the Swords deck do very well on the auction house.


    Alchemy

    Fun potions, elixirs, and oils
    , , , , , , , .


    Engineering

    Goggles and clothing
    Most goggles are soulbound or require engineering to use but have no level requirement and are great for profession based outfits. is fun, but does require 185 engineering to equip. Guns can made for transmog. Items like are amusing, but might be hard to turn a good profit on with the expense to craft and engineering requirement.

    Devices
    , unlike many engineered items, does not require engineering to equip. The on use effect is a beam of light at a targeted area, similar to the elder's moonstone. There are other trinkets with interesting effects, but engineering is a requirement to use them. could potentially be used for RP, but I haven't personally tested the market on such items.

    Fireworks and Flares
    My mileage on fireworks has been pretty iffy, but flares are often cheap to make.

    Jewelcrafting

    Head pieces
    , , . Designs are difficult to obtain, but the monocles are a good profit if you can get decent prices on the materials. Crowns like are not unique in appearance, but can still be sold as transmog items when leveling the profession or mats are cheap to obtain.

    Toys
    Focusing lenses like are usually only worth making if mats are cheap. Stardust is soulbound.

    Enchanting

    Enchants are often used on RP weapons purely for the glow/effect, regardless of stats. This guide on Wowhead shows all the visual effects, sorted by color. http://www.wowhead.com/guide=137#glowchart-mop-beta

    Secondary and Gathering Professions
    Not a lot worth mentioning here. Low level Horde herbalists can pick Bloodthistle to sell to Blood Elf addicts. Deviate fish can be eaten or cooked into . Cheap to make feasts can be dropped for visual effect.


    3.Transmog Drops and Items to Flip

    What to flip?

    Any unobtainable or hard to find gear, even if it isn't transmogrify-able, can sell quite well on RP servers. Also keep an eye out for items that are unique in appearance and have a limited supply of materials still in circulation, such as . Popular sets on RP servers include the "usual" skimpy plate sets, but there are also plenty of buyers for themed sets like city guards or magi.


    4. Advertising

    Play to your audience
    When posting in trade chat, mentioning how the item may be used/useful in roleplay can help boost sales. Drop a line about how awesome the visual effect for is, how can be used again and again unlike , or why will make you the envy of dress collectors.


    Utilize RP profiles to your advantage
    I've made sales and found some suppliers by incorporating my AH business into my RP profile. Using your "currently" section on the MRP or TRP2 addons (more on that below) can be a fun and unique way to alert folks around you that you are looking for deals or selling items. Example: "She appears to be browsing for uncut gemstones, making inquiries to the nearby vendors. ((buying in bulk, pst))*"


    Realm forums
    Realm forums for the high pop RP realms are quite active, and can be a great place to buy or sell rare gear.

    5. RP Realm Etiquette

    While not always strictly enforced, Blizzard has a policy that names on a roleplay realm should sound like actual names and not things like "lolbankeralt". Non-roleplay names could be reported and forced to change. Griefing RP'ers by intentionally disrupting their roleplay is also considered reportable. Not that I expect that kind of behavior from folks here, but give these guidelines a glance to avoid alienating potential customers. http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/02/23/th...leplay-in-wow/


    If you would like to have a bit of background, there are addons like MRP and TRP2 that let you make a profile for your character. They also allow you to flag yourself IC or OOC (in character/out of character) to let others know whether or not you might be approached for roleplay. When players with either of those addons mouse over you, it will show information like full name, nickname, IC titles and perhaps a little blurb about what your character is up to if you've filled out those fields. Clicking the MRP/TRP2 icon will bring up a pane with character description and history that you can have as detailed or empty as you would like. http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/my-role-play, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/totalrp2.


    *Double brackets around your text (( )) indicates that you are speaking "out of character."
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    Nice guide.

    One thing that always intrigued me (but could never pull the trigger on) about my RP-PvP realm was ACTUAL RP gold-making opportunities, rather than just RP-based items. On legit RP servers, I expect there's some decent gold to be made from RP-based "businesses". Never found the time to delve into that, though.

    Anyone with any RP business stories?
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    Very nice guide! +rep for you!

    If I may, I'd also add that you shouldn't forget about doing pet sales from an RP perspective. Just as one example, there are several pets that fit within the Troll loa lore - I'm on an RP-PvP server, and have helped one of my guildies obtain pets that are specfically based on that lore. There are multiple other examples, and if you use appropriate Trade chat barks, selling them could be both fun and profitable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kathroman View Post
    Nice guide.

    One thing that always intrigued me (but could never pull the trigger on) about my RP-PvP realm was ACTUAL RP gold-making opportunities, rather than just RP-based items. On legit RP servers, I expect there's some decent gold to be made from RP-based "businesses". Never found the time to delve into that, though.

    Anyone with any RP business stories?
    I've played since Vanilla, and have always been on RP-PvP servers. On three separate occasions I've encountered an active "bounty hunting" business. If a particular opposite-faction player was harassing you, or if you just didn't like an opposite-faction player, you could contract to have them killed (accompanied by appropriate RP, of course). I chatted with the folks involved each time, and they were actually doing quite a nice little business for themselves. Just for fun, I arranged for a contract hit with one of them, and was presented with a screenshot and accompanying narrative of the kill. It was great, lol.

    I also served as a 'contract killer' for one of them (I did it for free) just to see what it was like. I have to say it was tremendous fun, and I've always wished the RP emphasis was a bit stronger in the game so that this sort of thing could flourish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathroman View Post
    One thing that always intrigued me (but could never pull the trigger on) about my RP-PvP realm was ACTUAL RP gold-making opportunities, rather than just RP-based items. On legit RP servers, I expect there's some decent gold to be made from RP-based "businesses". Never found the time to delve into that, though.

    Anyone with any RP business stories?
    I've interacted with a mostly Goblin guild that farmed goods and sold items CoD in character. Got a few nice shipments from them, with a little invoice. I don't think they're around anymore, but I loved the concept and was tempted to roll an alt and join just to see how they ran it.

    I have a guild I bought that I'm working on concepts for to try to turn it into a profitable roleplay venture, but no concrete plans yet. I'd really love to incorporate garrisons and have one set up as headquarters for the business when the expansion is released.

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    Very nice guide +rep. And @Caitlyn, that contract killer business sounds amazing and hilarious!

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    Nice guide! I play on Moon Guard so I'm familiar with strange RP markets. Targeting transmog certainly seems like a good approach, though I tend to prefer simple markets where I can just post 500 items and not worry about trying to evaluate every individual item.

    I think RP realms tend to attract a strange mix of new players and RPers. The new players just somehow end up there without knowing what they're getting into. The RPers are more serious. Raiders are usually few and far between, but LFR and flex have really opened up the gem/consumable markets regardless of that. I've seen some goblin guilds come and go, but nothing that has stuck around so far.

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    An amazing guide. Thank you so very much. You certainly did put a lot of thought and effort into it. Am returning to the game and this guide helps a lot considering I am playing on a RP realm and is a big aid.

    I'll certainly follow up down the road and let you know how I've done. I certainly do find RP realms pretty intriguing and there is just so much out there that is often ignored but holds a lot more value and meaning to RPers.

    Its just I don't really have a very flexible gaming schedule so I can't really commit to it on a grand scale of things. I am very restricted in that regard since I'll often be undercut during peak hours thus lowering my sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krebs View Post
    Nice guide! I play on Moon Guard so I'm familiar with strange RP markets. Targeting transmog certainly seems like a good approach, though I tend to prefer simple markets where I can just post 500 items and not worry about trying to evaluate every individual item.

    I think RP realms tend to attract a strange mix of new players and RPers. The new players just somehow end up there without knowing what they're getting into. The RPers are more serious. Raiders are usually few and far between, but LFR and flex have really opened up the gem/consumable markets regardless of that. I've seen some goblin guilds come and go, but nothing that has stuck around so far.
    I do play on Wymrest Accord. Since our realms do get paired up, it would nice to meet up in game to chat up a bit. I'll leave the details to our personal messages.

    But I do agree with you on all those points. I do find RP realms to attract a mixture of players. You have your hardcore raiders, the wanna be raiders, the min-maxers, the new players, experienced RPers, PVPers, and so so so many more. I often find that RP realms seem to have a higher turnover or a bigger casual base. A lot of folks are simply looking to experience a RP realm and its not usually their main realm and I think this demographic consitutes a wast majority of Moon Guard's and WrA realm population. So they don't really focus or spend much time on their characters on these realms.

    I do have to agree, that Flex really caught on RP realms. However, I am a bit surprised since I've not really seen a demand for BoEs, flasks, etc. What is even more surprising is that even though WrA is ahead of MG on the realm progress charts, MG often has a faster turn over of raid centric items and gear. Spent a considerable time on Emerald Dream and for a RP realm they are quite active at end game with an active auction house.

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    Very detailed guide, though I figured I'd add a few pointers of my own, to anyone interested in delving into gold making on roleplaying servers;

    Know your server, and the people on it:
    Is your server home to several large military/guard/cult guilds? Odds are at least some of them use uniforms, items that'll be more popular than they would be on other servers as new members joining will need to get their own. In fact, it's generally a good idea to keep an eye on the various RP hubs, to see what 'fashion' appears to be popular at the time being. Some seem to favor heavy armor, while others seem to prefer more casual clothing. Information such as that is helpful, for knowing which transmog items will sell quickly, and which might take longer.

    If you see craftable gear being used as uniforms, you can even try contacting the guild and offer to sell it to their members on a slight discount, to secure a more steady income. If you offer to make the sales happen on an IC(In character) basis too, they'll be even more likely to accept.

    To this should be added, however, that any items belonging to the http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=11830 set, which is generally used by Stormwind guard guilds, is going to be replaced in WoD. The coming expansion will introduce higher resolution set, matching the guards armor, which will be available for purchase in your garrison, as such, it'll be wise to sell remaining pieces of this set as quickly as possible, and avoid stocking up on more than a few/none in the coming days.

    Difference between rp server:
    While roleplaying servers have many similarities, there's however also a few fundemental differences between the two types, RP/PVP and RP/PVE. While the PVE servers leave people in a position to wear whatever they want, without fear of ever being attacked, the same is not the case on the PVP variety.
    So while on PVE servers, people aiming for Blood Knight RP will most likely opt into the http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1100 item set, players on the PVP servers will have to look around for other options, given the low item level of the set and its unavailability for transmog purposes without a specific rank. This of course means that the http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1055 item set, in my experience, sell better on the PVP servers than it does on the PVE ones.
    In general, you can assume that players on RP/PVP servers will be just as concerned about "Can this be mogged into my class' armor of choice?" as they are of "Will this look good on my character", unlike the people on RP/PVE servers. Consider your investments in transmog gear with this in mind.

    Lastly a few items of note:
    Dice, that should be especially popular, if your RP server of choice has an active community of people in the more shady line of business:
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=36863
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=63269
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=36862

    Oh, and as a final note, keep a keen eye on the updates in regards to items that'll end up in the upcoming 'toybox'. If there's any craftable items going there, odds are they'll be heavy sellers, at least for the first few weeks of the new expansion, or before if people want to be prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddlesticks View Post
    Lastly a few items of note:
    Dice, that should be especially popular, if your RP server of choice has an active community of people in the more shady line of business:
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=36863
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=63269
    http://beta.wowhead.com/item=36862
    I recently began buying out these when I find them cheap, even on regular servers. I'm hoping that since they are going to the toybox, folks with the "collect 'em all" mentality will be looking for them on other realms as well.

    Thanks for the post, you brought up some helpful points.

 

 

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