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Nilaus

Building an Empire 101 - 4. Profession layout

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Hello and welcome yet again to another round of musings on how to build an empire from scratch.
Last time I rambled about something very abstract, so I will be very specific this time.
Starting on a new server I am in a unique position to go for the optimal composition, rather than making due with the choices made several years/expansions ago.

Planning
I only expect to have 4 level 85 characters by the start of MoP; I need to take that into consideration for my profession line-up. This means it is a balance of 2 factors:
* Must-have professions for MoP launch
* Good opportunity for multiple professions when I have 10-11 chars

Alchemy vs. Inscription as multi profession
In Cata (and before) Alchemy was a favored profession to keep on every character; the optimal setup with 10 chars was Alchemy on all and then another profession.
With the advent of gating DMC in MoP through Scroll of Wisdom it has been considering on these boards to go for multiple Scribes to max out DMC production.
I do not see this as profitable due to the vast amount of herbs you need to feed an army of Scribes at an early stage of the expansion. Each DMC requires 10 Starlight Ink, which is roughly 10 stacks of herbs per Scribe per day. On top of that you have to level your Scribes to 600 first, which is not going to be easy either.

So I am still going with multiple Alchemists, however since I need more than 3-4 other professions for MoP I cannot go the “Alchemy + X route”. When the bots I up and running on the server and herbs are readily available, then I may consider jumping in on DMC mass production.

Character 1
@Namssob has a good article on the case for dual gathering: Article: A Case for Dual Gathering
No point in me reiterating his points here. I want one of my 4 characters to be a dual gatherer. I selected my Shaman as he was the first to level from 1 -> 85, so I needed the initial cash and xp the most for him. Shaman is not optimal, but I didn’t bother with yet another Druid (have 3 already).
I expect this to be the first character to level to 90 and then sell the herbs/ore for quick profit.

Character 2
This may not be optimal, but it is a personal preference and a recommendation. It is great to have a dedicated character for running old world content. I chose my Blood Death Knight for this role. To complement this role I gave him Tailoring + Enchanting increase the productivity. Tailoring is not a top priority for me, but it is ok and it helps level enchanting. When it comes to leveling enchanting without spending a fortune on AH, then you need 2 professions to feed greens. Tailoring will not cut it alone. I saved all my mats from Blacksmithing and DEed those as well, which meant I didn’t buy any enchanting mats on AH and ended up selling quite a bit of excess.

Character 3
I am running out of characters.... fast! Due to the reputation gating in MoP for a lot of recipes I want to collect several rep requiring professions on the same character and this should be a character I want to play a lot. Blacksmithing and Jewelcrafting goes on my Paladin (DPS as Holy spec is fun). I expect this character to be my second character to level.

Characters 4+
It is not certain that I will make it to 85 by MoP with a 4th character, but I will try. These will all get Alchemy and then an additional profession in order of priority:
4. Inscription
5. Leatherworking
6. Engineering
7. - 11. Inscription

Status
As always I will give you all a glimpse at the current status. As you can see I am still focusing on leveling my characters. I prefer to level to 85, so they are ready for MoP and not just 80 for profession enabled as I think it will be tough to get professions up without going into the world.

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Still no money as I spend it as fast as I get it on leveling professions. So far I have Herbalism, Mining, Blacksmithing, Enchanting, Tailoring at a decent level.
I focus on leveling only with rested XP for Outland and beyond, so I start a new char when I run out. I expect to start characters 5 + 6 at MoP launch.
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  1. Tangster's Avatar
    Love following your progress Nilaus! I assume your DK will be the first to level in MoP? If so i agree wholeheartedly with all your professions choices. There is a bias around here sometimes that you need to stack either alchs or scribes if you want to be successful in MoP. This is false, and you're going to prove it! With 3/4 "reputation" professions a duel gatherer and a JC you'll be in prime position to take over almost any market you desire. A alchy/anything would be only a bonus.

    Yet more proof that you can be successful without an alt army. I look forward to your progress in MoP!
  2. Nilaus's Avatar
    I am happy you like the blog, at least I have 1 reader then
    My DK is my Tailor/Enchanter, so I don't intend to level him first. I want to start with my dual gatherer, to cash in on the expected very high raw mats prices. If I had a big bank roll I would be buying, but since I don't I will be selling. My professions will be a bit behind the curve, but I feel that is ok, to get some cash.
  3. notam's Avatar
    I am the second follower then. Its very entertaning to read about ideas behind and how you set it up.
    Looking forward about the progress.
  4. Frogiane's Avatar
    Following you too. Gathering first makes sense to me to cash in on the demand for leveling material.
  5. Pentt's Avatar
    I find it very interesting you dont have a single JC. Any insight on your reasoning? JC imo is the most steady gold maker there is. Shouldnt take too much longer looking for a mass seller if you looking for herbs as well. The downside is the time both are needed to destroy the mats
  6. Drrwho's Avatar
    I would have to agree with you as well Nilaus. I have one Scribe, and two Alchemists... that's pretty much all I am planning at this point. I've never bothered with the glyph market, and I only do the shuffle here and there, yet I still have about 3 million gold )plus I've spent nearly 2 million on adding mounts to my collection... 174 and counting). It can be done without doing the things that so many others say are essential to amassing wealth in WoW.

    While I will agree that the DMC market will likely be a pretty big profit area in MoP, maintaining a bunch of Scribes just for DMC production will be a drain on resources and time. As you stated, the amount of herbs will be pretty high, on a daily basis. I'd prefer to not farm the rest of my life just to make a card each day on 10 toons. There will be plenty more ways to make a lot of gold in MoP... if there is one thing MoP brings, it's many gold-making methods.

    And yea, going with the reputation-based crafting professions will likely be a gold-mine. Rep is going to be a grind fest again, which honestly I'm excited about. It means that less people will have the reps right away and that equals more profits for the rest of us. I like rep farming and I plan to do so. Time to show what we are made of and what we can do with our knowledge.

    Oh and yea... my dual gathering Druid will probably be my 2nd toon to 90, right behind my Druid main (Enchanting/Leatherworking). I plan to do some herbing and mining right away, to cash in on the jacked prices for herbs and ore. There will always be time to raid later... but the chance to make a killing on herbs and ore is limited.
  7. Nilaus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt
    I find it very interesting you dont have a single JC. Any insight on your reasoning? JC imo is the most steady gold maker there is. Shouldnt take too much longer looking for a mass seller if you looking for herbs as well. The downside is the time both are needed to destroy the mats
    My Character 3 is BS/JC. I keep those together as they both have reputation locked recipes (though on closer inspection, not the same professions)
  8. Nilaus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Drrwho
    While I will agree that the DMC market will likely be a pretty big profit area in MoP, maintaining a bunch of Scribes just for DMC production will be a drain on resources and time. As you stated, the amount of herbs will be pretty high, on a daily basis. I'd prefer to not farm the rest of my life just to make a card each day on 10 toons. There will be plenty more ways to make a lot of gold in MoP... if there is one thing MoP brings, it's many gold-making methods.
    I actually intend to hit Inscription pretty hard later on, when bots are really raking in herbs in overwhelming quantities. More on my plan for Inscription in another blog
  9. Drrwho's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nilaus
    I actually intend to hit Inscription pretty hard later on, when bots are really raking in herbs in overwhelming quantities. More on my plan for Inscription in another blog
    If I get some of my other toons leveled up, I may add another Scribe or two... it's a big IF right now though
  10. Dru's Avatar
    Drrwho, why add a Scribe?
    I can see adding a JC or an Alch or even a tailor - you'd have multiple cooldowns at your disposal. Epic gem, alch transmutes, new dreamcloth-level cloth.
    But a Scribe? One scribe can make all the glyphs you need. Having 2 scribes would let you mill twice as fast if they were on different accounts and logged in at the same time... but I don't think that's worth using up the profession slot or the cost of leveling inscription again.
  11. Drrwho's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dru
    Drrwho, why add a Scribe?
    I can see adding a JC or an Alch or even a tailor - you'd have multiple cooldowns at your disposal. Epic gem, alch transmutes, new dreamcloth-level cloth.
    But a Scribe? One scribe can make all the glyphs you need. Having 2 scribes would let you mill twice as fast if they were on different accounts and logged in at the same time... but I don't think that's worth using up the profession slot or the cost of leveling inscription again.

    Why add a second scribe? For the Darkmoon Card daily cooldown. I don't need a second JC or Tailor and I already have a couple Alchs. With the way they are setting up Darkmoon Card production and not doing ink trading, Darkmoon Cards are likely to be a pretty lucrative business, even moreso than previous expansions.