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    [Inscription] Guide on "WINNING" with MoP glyph preparation

    Since inscription questions have been popping up more and more frequently, I thought it might be a good idea to write up a quick guide on how to prepare and execute a successful MoP glyph launch. This will serve as a centralized overview of the upcoming MoP glyph "rush".

    Step 1: Buy cheap herbs. NOW! You can use whatever price you feel comfortable with (I've been working with 7g/ink, which translates into approx 20g glyphs), but you want to buy ANY and ALL herbs that will produce ink below that price. If you feel you've got enough, lower your price, but don't stop buying. Anything you don't buy is something your competition probably will.

    Step 2: Process into ink. For the most part, you will be milling cata level herbs, resulting in large quantities of and . Find whatever method works best for you to offload the inferno ink, but hang onto the blackfallow. Store it in your GBanks, Alt's Banks, or Mailboxes, but you ideally want to get as much as you can right now. NOTE: 1 stack of every glyph = approx 20k ink. Plan accordingly.

    Step 3: Convert the ink. As late as you feel comfortable with, trade your blackfallow in for lesser inks prior to patch 5.0.1. If that's Monday night (or Tues for EU), great. If you want to do it the weekend, or even week beforehand, that's fine, but the later you can afford to leave it, the easier it will be to adapt and react to any hiccups. As far as how to convert the inks, you can visit http://mop.wowhead.com/skill=773#recipes:0-11+16+1 and enter "glyph of" in the search field and sort by reagent to get an idea of approximately how the ink distribution will play out. NOTE: if you have enough ink stockpiled, specific ink distribution will be negligible. IE. You shouldn't run out of any ink until you can afford to restock them at whatever your ink buying price was in the first place.

    Step 4: Craft glyphs. All glyphs that don't appear on this list prior to 5.0.1 should be queued up. The new talent system for Cata went live with 4.0.1, and the new glyph system along with it. Be prepared to start selling glyphs AS SOON as 5.0.1 launches. If that means pre-crafting a certain number of glyphs so you can focus your early time on posting, then you should try to estimate how many posting cycles you expect to go through until you'll be able to get crafting again. My estimation would be that you will want to have about 5-10 of each glyph on hand for that first night.

    Step 5: Keep buying herbs. Without the possibility of trading in Blackfallow for lesser inks, unprepared scribes will start flocking to old-world herbs to try to keep up with demand. Set up a snatch list for old world herbs that fall below your buy price from earlier, just make sure to ignore Cata herbs. NOTE: you don't even need to worry about processing these herbs immediately, so unless you are in need of a certain type of ink before [item lang=mop]ink of dreams[/item] becomes available, all you are trying to do is keep an edge in margins over the competition.

    Step 6: Restock glyphs. Don't worry about price data and TSM settings at this point for restocking - keep EVERYTHING at whatever minimum quantity you need to keep posting in between restock cycles. Pricing and trends will only start to matter once the rush dies down. The purpose of this guide is to be able to take advantage of every possibility glyphs end up presenting without spending time over-analyzing everything.

    Step 7: Important timelines to watch out for. First of all, you want to make sure you have enough old-world inks to last you from 5.0.1 until about a month or so into 5.0.3, when prices on MoP herbs will presumably start to level out. I'd give yourself approx. 15 weeks or so here to be safe. So, based on your server size, make sure you can last that long without NEEDING to restock (don't get forced into overpaying for old-world herbs). The first demand rush will come right after 5.0.1 launches, since that's when the new glyph system/glyph effects should go live. The first couple nights and then the first weekend will probably yield the highest sales. The second demand rush will come with 5.0.3, when a number of players will roll fresh alts under the new Pandaren race. Again, the first few nights, and especially the first weekend (since fresh alts won't NEED glyphs right away) will be the best opportunity.

    Step 8: Come back here and boast about how much profit you made. Simple as that.

    This thread will be updated as additional information becomes available, especially dates, so be sure to check back frequently.

    Good Luck!
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    Nice write up Kath. Great basics on how to make stupid amounts of gold in the first few weeks with glyphs. I came here thinking i'd have plenty to add but you covered it all! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
    Nice write up Kath. Great basics on how to make stupid amounts of gold in the first few weeks with glyphs. I came here thinking i'd have plenty to add but you covered it all! :P

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    Yeah, had to remove "Mini" from the original title when it was all said and done. I think it was only 4 steps in my head, too...
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    Great read! I've made 20 of each glyph for my server, but I'm worried I may have too many glyphs. I play on windrunner and I never see more then 2k glyphs up at any given time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanrogue View Post
    Great read! I've made 20 of each glyph for my server, but I'm worried I may have too many glyphs. I play on windrunner and I never see more then 2k glyphs up at any given time.

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    Well, I'm personally going to run a pretty large stockpile, because my plan is to hopefully retire from gylphs for good after this and never have to restock once the stockpile dries up. So, I'm not sure there's such a thing as "too many glyphs" You might have gone too big too fast (IE. if you've got a stack of any of the Faded Gylphs sitting around, you might be scrambling to dump them before MoP) but I wouldn't feel prepared with just a single stack of each. Not without a substantial ink stockpile to back it up.
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    There is another train of thought (@Stede brought it up i believe) that suggests NOT pre-crafting to avoid any possibility of losing stock when 4.4 rolls around (i.e not having 40 glyphs turn into )

    I think both ways have pros and cons.
    Pre Crafting
    Pros
    Won't have to afk craft everything on patch day, which allows you to:
    Post immediately
    Ignore most technical issues (post and log)
    Set the price (to an extent)

    Cons
    May lose a stack or two
    SMALL chance you lose it all. I'm not entirely clear on the programming that goes on during a patch, but i'm not completely ruling out blizz assigning all glyphs a ID and THEN reassigning new glyphs, old glyph IDs. I doubt this will happen...but its been bugging me...

    Post-Crafting
    Pros
    No chance of losing any money
    Will have the same or more stock then an equal pre-crafter

    Cons
    Prices will be set (to an extend, they will still be very volatile and prone to manipulation) upon market (re)entry
    Couple hours of CKS to get your stock completely ready
    Sales more affected by technical issues

    Although the technical issues aren't a big concern. If the server goes down, no ones buying stuff anyway.

    However the important thing to note is if you are stockpiling correctly (i.e doing what @Kathroman says) the difference in profits from these to methods will probably be trivial.
    Food for thought
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    @Tangster - since we've already seen a few glyphs go the way of [item lang=mop]faded glyph[/item] - I'm not really expecting any huge surprises from Blizz here. There would be far too much outrage from both sides (since everyone will need to relearn these glyphs all over again), but on the plus side...everyone will need to learn glyphs all over again

    At any rate, I believe we'll have more than enough time to see it coming, and pre-crafting during the week before the patch is probably going to be the best route, IMO
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    I'm not actually convinced we should be stocking glyphs right now, whilst yeah it's VERY unlikely that they'd do any kind of ID change on a large scale the fact remains they're actually still switching materials around for certain glyphs. You may end up with a stock pile worth considerably less than you anticipated if it ends up being able to be supplied by the most saturated tier of herbs (likely the cataclysm ones for a while).

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    You have already said that we should not stock glyph's but here you say to stock them? Why the sudden change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrillex View Post
    You have already said that we should not stock glyph's but here you say to stock them? Why the sudden change?
    I never said don't stockpile them, I said don't stockpile them YET. If you don't have ANY pre-crafted before 5.0.1, then you'll be wasting valuable AH time spamming that Craft Next button. Just don't start anything right now that can't be easily undone.
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