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    Noodle Carts

    There's been some new data released about the Noodle Carts. It seems that on the PTR right now there are both 250 stat and up to 300 stat noodle carts, requiring questlines to obtain, you can read more about it here. Just an interesting recent addition to the PTR including that they cost 10 of each 300 stat food. If anyone on the PTR has some more info to share, I'd love to hear it!

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    Thanks, @PhatLewts . Wowhead did a really nice job of covering the info so far; I haven't been able to dredge up anything new yet.

    As a raider, I'm still thinking through whether the +275 or +300 carts will be worth making - on a single progression night, we can easily burn through a full stack of feasts. We currently provide the +275 feasts to the raid, though some of us prefer to just make/bring our own +300 stat food. Given the collection of ingredients you'd need to put together for even 10 each of the required foods, I'm not entirely convinced that I see the advantage to these new recipes, but we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Thanks, @PhatLewts . Wowhead did a really nice job of covering the info so far; I haven't been able to dredge up anything new yet.

    As a raider, I'm still thinking through whether the +275 or +300 carts will be worth making - on a single progression night, we can easily burn through a full stack of feasts. We currently provide the +275 feasts to the raid, though some of us prefer to just make/bring our own +300 stat food. Given the collection of ingredients you'd need to put together for even 10 each of the required foods, I'm not entirely convinced that I see the advantage to these new recipes, but we'll see.
    To clarify, 10 of each food makes 5 carts. So really 2 of each thing feeds everyone in the raid. If you guys are bringing it anyways, might as well just pool it and it'll stretch further.

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    @Faxmonkey - yep, that's an important point.

    With a longer list of ingredients, even though the recipe as it currently stands on PTR is more efficient, it does complicate things for gathering/collecting. That's more of a guild management issue than a comment on the recipe per se, but it's something to always be considered.

    I tend to be cautious based on prior experience with the PTR: Recipe ingredients often change a lot before going live. We'll see how this ultimately turns out once it's released!

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    A few thoughts. First off, I'm GM and RL of a somewhat decent 10-man raiding guild (despite roster problems, we hit 3/13 heroic before the summer break), and while the guild supplies 275 feasts, we recommend players stack up on their own 300 food. I'd say about half do, myself included. On a new heroic boss, we can easily burn through dozens and dozens of feasts, so with a new raid coming out, I'm guessing there will be demand.

    Second off: there are new mats for the 300 stat food. Take the new 300 agi food for instance. It requires:

    - one of an entirely new mat (Ancient Pandaren Spices) which will apparently loot on certain mobs; currently, they are indicated as the mini-boss mobs of the end of the golden lotus daily quests; however, as we know, the golden lotus dailies will be no more come 5.4, so we don't know how often these mobs will pop, if they will still be as easy to kill, and of course we don't know how camped they're going to be.

    - five of a sort-of-currently-existing mat: Fresh Pomfruit, which (for now at least) shares the ItemID of the simple Pomfruit. This item may only be obtained as part of a golden lotus daily quest - and as I've just mentioned, those are going the way of the dodo.


    So, in short, we'll still have the classical recipes for 300 food, which are annoying as heck to make, and the new recipes with only two mats, of which we have no idea how difficult and/or rare they may be to obtain. Quite personally, I'm stocking up on all sorts of foods (mainly via real cheap plants on the AH), and when 5.4 hits, I'll be selling a decent bit of food.


    Also, regarding the choice of crafting 10-man "feasts" vs. 25-man ones: according to ptr testing, for now these feasts do NOT feed you; rather, they place the food of choice in your inventory. That means that, assuming the food you receive stays "normal" 300 food and not some wonky "unique" 300 food, that there is no waste when there are fewer people than charges. Looking at the food required to food produced ratio, it would appear that crafting 10-man noodle carts will be sub-optimal:

    - 10-man: 6*5 foods for 5*10 charges of food = 30 foods invested for 50 foods received (i.e. 1+2/3 foods received for each food invested)
    - 25-man: 6*10 foods for 5*25 charges of food = 60 foods invested for 125 foods received (i.e. 2+1/12 foods received for each food invested)

    So apparently, once you've done your silly quest for the secret ingredient of the 25-man 300 stat food noodle carts, be it for making money or for your own personal consumption, these are the only ones you'll be crafting (assuming, once again, that they keep out doling "normal" 300 stat food).
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    I have seen no comment about the use of the verb "SELL" in the noodle cart recipes. Why do they use "sell" instead of "serve"? Maybe that gives a possibility for the cart maker to actually make gold, by needing to pay gold to the cart when someone clicks it to receive food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabinas View Post
    I have seen no comment about the use of the verb "SELL" in the noodle cart recipes. Why do they use "sell" instead of "serve"? Maybe that gives a possibility for the cart maker to actually make gold, by needing to pay gold to the cart when someone clicks it to receive food?
    I have a feeling it's going to be like the traveler's tundra mammoth or Jeeves. When you click on it, it will open up a vendor window and there will be food for you to buy for 2-3g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdron View Post
    I have a feeling it's going to be like the traveler's tundra mammoth or Jeeves. When you click on it, it will open up a vendor window and there will be food for you to buy for 2-3g.
    I agree with this thought, it seems that a lot of things that blizzard is incorporating are going to be going the way of the vendor, and more ways for us to spend money outside of lining other player pockets.. which in the case of use gold goblins is rather unfortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdron View Post
    I have a feeling it's going to be like the traveler's tundra mammoth or Jeeves. When you click on it, it will open up a vendor window and there will be food for you to buy for 2-3g.
    I think you're right about this. I love my farm, and I hope we'll have some kind of successor in the next expansion, but Blizzard really messed up cooking this time around - far too many ingredients, and far too many of the ingredients! Plus they probably didn't envision such a widespread use of the token shuffle for profit - though I'd personally consider that an unexpected benefit of the whole thing.

    If the carts are Jeeves-like (and I do think they will be), I hope it's just a course-correction for this expansion and that they don't plan to kill cooking as a source of income permanently. It's not my main source of income, but I make a not-inconsierable sum from it - and it's fun.

    And who's going to build a cooking-Jeeves just to feed their raid, anyway?

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    That would be awesome .... a little jeeves or bling with a chef's hat and a hibachi grill!! I'll take 2 please.

 

 
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