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    Augmentation of Al'akir's Drop Table

    From Ask the Devs #4: Armor and Weapons:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353015977

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    Q: I feel that the current item drop ratio per part for caster's is little bit weird. While belt slot items are very common, wrist and ranged (wand) item are drastically rare. Now players don't like going to Throne of the Four Winds because belt and pants are so easily acquired via other way. What if the drops of Throne of the Four Winds changed into rare slot items, such as wrist and wand? - 빛그리고사제 (Korea)

    A: There are a few issues embedded in this question. One is that while we like the random nature of the Throne of the Four Winds gear overall, it occupies a strange niche in the current itemization scheme. Al'Akir for example is fairly challenging, but so are Cho'gall and Nefarian. The net result is that many players lack epic legs, heads or shoulders and so have a strong incentive to spend Valor Point on their tier set of legs. By the time they defeat Al'Akir, nobody wants his legs. We plan on tweaking those loot tables a little for 4.1; Al'Akir will drop some random necks and cloaks as well as helm or shoulder tokens in addition or in some cases instead of his current loot.

    As far as some items being rarer than others, that is the kind of thing we vary so that every tier of content doesn’t feel like a photocopy of the previous tier with bigger numbers. Our PvP gear for a variety of reasons has become very formulaic, and we don’t want the same thing to befall PvE. Bracers are hard to get now (though the trolls in 4.1 have a lot!), but next tier it might be a different item that becomes precious.
    I believe this will have a definite impact on the epic BoE market if the change goes live, depending on the items dropped, especially with regards to highly-priced items with few alternative pieces. Given how buried this comment was, I thought it was worth bringing up as a point of speculation. What do you think we can expect?

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    "Instead of?"

    Do not like. I was still hoping for a perfectly itemized tank sword (Mastery/Dodge) off of him. =[ I don't mind adding to the loot table, but I see no reason to remove what is already there. The pieces that drop off of him are often best in slot if you can get the proper itemization, which seems to happen fairly often for us.

    From a gold making perspective, I really don't know if it will have a big impact. Now, granted I can only speak for the types of toons I've actually cared to gear up, which are all plate tanks and DPS. We have a perfectly viable neck from Ramkahen (Granted, it's DPS stats but with reforging it can still make a nice tank neck, I used it till Rage of Ages) and we get a cloak from Hyjal. (Once again, reforged makes a perfectly adequate DPS cloak.)

    Shoulders and Hat . . . I find this kind of retarded he's even dropping it and I'll rage about that internally and instead just talk about the gold impact. Like I said, only speaking from someone who has geared up plate nonholydins. "Meh." Anyone who is farming Alakir is probably also farming Chogall, so shoulders are . . . meh. Most tier tank shoulders have horrible stats and I wouldn't wear them if someone paid me, I can't speak for DPS pieces. As for hats . . . AFAIK there is no BoE epic plate hat for any spec at the moment, so really there's nothing for this to impact in the first place.

    I'd love to see input from non-tank junkies, but that's my aggro-addicted input on how it would effect people that play like me.

    I don't mind that they're updating his loot table. But I wish that 1) They wouldn't remove stuff that's already on it; and 2) They would create new things, not take drops exclusive to other bosses and spread them around.

    If you're going to make token freeforalls just bring back Trophy of the Crusade IMO. I liked that token system better anyways.

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    I hated the Trophy of the Crusades, 25 people all wanting em is not exactly fun. And regarding the epic boe market I do not see it having a huge impact as the amount of guilds clearing alakir is probably not that high relative to the players that would pay for an epic boe. Also you have to remember that a BOE for a player is a guaranteed item and allows you to avoid having to rely on RNG each week for a drop.
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    See, I'd rather have 25 people all able to use something than see a tenth Vanq token that no one can use, ya know? But I suppose that's a conversation for another day/thread. :P

 

 

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