Register
Welcome to the Stormspire.net WoW Gold Forums!

Greetings, guest! Welcome to Stormspire.net, your #1 resource for WoW and Diablo 3 Gold, Professions, and everything in between!


Enjoy what the site offers? Consider Premium Membership if you wish to get the most out of the site. Premium Membership benefits include the acclaimed Goblineer's World of Warcraft Gold Guide, private forum access, a complimentary high-quality avatar, and much more!


If this is your first visit, make sure to check out the Stormspire.net Survival Guide for a quick site orientation. You may also register to unlock all standard forum features, and to get rid of these lovely ads!


We proudly host the Official forums for TradeSkillMaster, The Undermine Journal, and WoWuction.

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: glyph capper

  1. #1
    Entrepreneur
    cracklingice's Avatar
    Posts
    869
    Reputation
    20
    Tagged in
    186 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation

    glyph capper

    So I have this dbag on my server that is insisting on capping glyph prices @ the price of a stack of herbs. I buy some out and he flames me in trade and starts conflict. I already reported this behavior as it is a clear violation of TOS, but got the usual postcard for reporting using their new system. I am on a low pop server and at times it's basically just me and him. He is very clear that he doesn't want to sell glyphs and just prevent others from making profit from them. How have you guys dealt with this? I'm about to just pull out and message the others that were once big glyph sellers to stay out with me for a bit and let this guy take the full weight of the server for a bit and hope he gets tired of it. It's very clear he wants to be undercut and if he is not and actually has to work maybe it might run him off. He's been going at this for over a month now and boasts about having supplies for 600 glyphs and blah blah blah and just being a general PITA wannabe robin hood.

    Yes, I have thought about crashing the market, but I do not condone these actions of others so I don't want to do to him what he is doing to all of us.

    I can not find a single other thing that is sold by this player or I would be camping the crap out of it every moment I could. Oh and with the same 10% undercuts he is using on glyphs.

  2. #2
    EU-Aggramar/Dreanor
    Wind Trader Emeritus
    Meyer's Avatar
    Posts
    541
    Reputation
    91
    Tagged in
    130 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Just ignore him. I have seen these kinds of players several times over the years trying to prove a point or something and keeping prices really low. They all disappear as no one in the long run are willing to spent a lot of time making zero or marginal profit just to prove a point.

    The fact that he says he had materials for 600 new glyphs just proves he is a small fish. Don’t feel bad about crashing a market or charging insane prices for your items. The buyers might be moaning but as long as they hit the “buy out” button you really shouldn’t care. I can not believe how many glyphs I have sold at 350-500G. It’s all about supply and demand.

    Keep up your work – and completely ignore him.
    ---
    Summer 2010: Average Poor Wow player ||| Winter 2010: Joined The Consortium ||| Summer 2011: Passed 2 mio. liquid gold ||| Currently (MOP) >4 mio. ||| You could do the same.!

  3. #3
    Entrepreneur
    Iliyana's Avatar
    Posts
    5
    Reputation
    0
    Tagged in
    0 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Does he post on other markets? Maybe shoulder enchants, cards or flasks? If so, then invade 'his' markets on fresh bank alt and crash them for a week or two. Sooner or later he will give up having near 0 profits from AH.

  4. #4
    Entrepreneur
    neo6488's Avatar
    Posts
    187
    Reputation
    3
    Blog Entries
    2
    Tagged in
    78 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    I think your best bet is to try to burn him out. I know experience that your prob not selling THAT many glyphs so all hes really doing is running tsm and bulk reposting. Ill assume if this guy came outta nowhere this is an alt, try cogshank, that should give you alts hes posted on the forums with.
    IF he has alts go through tuj and see what else hes selling.

    ID try dropping the floor down as low as you can stomach it and buying him out (with an alt) if he undercuts you. The first time he logs in and sees that he has to make 800+ glyphs (2 of each im assuming) he will start to question if its worth it. Just dont taunt him or talk to him, let him figure out he has better things to do.

    If none of this works drop the price of glyphs as low as you can take, post on 48h posting cycle and do something else. Sometime you have to evaluate the gold per hour.

  5. #5
    US-Medivh (A)
    Entrepreneur
    EnigmaticClarity's Avatar
    Posts
    447
    Reputation
    14
    Tagged in
    211 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by cracklingice View Post
    He is very clear that he doesn't want to sell glyphs and just prevent others from making profit from them.
    He's lying his ass off and hoping you'll believe this. Don't. He wants to make a profit, he just claims he doesn't so you'll think he's hardcore insane and give up. As the other guys are suggesting, ignore him and just keep screwing with his auctions whenever you see the opportunity.

    On my own realm I'm looking to exit the glyph market because we still have about a dozen fairly reasonable glyph sellers who all work TSM and inventory just like most of us do and we all undercut each other so often that nobody really gets a significant piece of the pie, but if I truly had one serious competitor like you claim to, I'd stand firm against him. If he was out of the way, glyphs should be a big earner for you. Your guy probably realizes this and hopes you give up first.

    I had one significant competitor back at the end of Wrath and beginning of Cata, and it was magical. I know glyphs sold a lot better back then than they do now, but the real magic was not getting undercut. It's all the relisting that gets you down...I'd keep at glyphs indefinitely if there weren't literally a dozen guys undercutting like I'm currently facing. One of my current competitors is that same single guy who's easy to undercut that was there at the start of Cata, so I know he's not going away. At least a half-dozen of the others have been consistent for 6+ months and I don't see them going away either.
    Last edited by EnigmaticClarity; November 21st, 2012 at 08:37 AM.

  6. #6
    Entrepreneur
    cracklingice's Avatar
    Posts
    869
    Reputation
    20
    Tagged in
    186 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Thanks for the replies. I already did screw with him once. When I bought out some of his to repost higher and he told trade "Don't worry - I'll be reposting soon" I canceled every glyph I had on the AH and started posting them at 19. He made a puzzled comment in trade and then logged in frustration. I then canceled and reposted at the higher price and he didn't come back for a few hours. I had a good laugh at that one.

    This guy is currently not posting in other markets that I know of, but I know he has the capability based on his alts professions if he were to level them from 525.

    He hasn't even learned the shoulder enchants. Just the glyphs.
    Last edited by cracklingice; November 21st, 2012 at 10:46 AM.

  7. #7
    Entrepreneur
    blacklamb's Avatar
    Posts
    38
    Reputation
    0
    Tagged in
    9 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that if this is the only market he is involved in, he's going to eventually burn out. Everyone else covered that, so I'm here to deliver the bad news: there's a possibility he could keep this up for a very long time. I'd imagine he would have to eventually raise the price somewhat, but if he's bringing in gold via another bank alt/professions there's nothing to keep him from doing this indefinitely.

    To be honest, I do the same thing on my server. Call to Auction gave me the idea, actually. Their point was, if you find yourself consistently being undercut and having a ton of competition, instead of wasting all your time undercutting, just depress the market so that you don't have to worry about it anymore. Sure, I only make a fraction of what I used to, but like Stede said, if I can't make gold, why should anyone else? Petty? Maybe, but this is another form of PvP. And I have more then enough ink to last the entire expansion, which I intend to do. To be honest I think some of the melodramatic letters I've gotten from my competition has made it more then worth it, let alone all the time I no longer have to invest.

    That being said, if this guy is starting trouble with you and trying to pick arguments, I highly doubt he has the means to pull this off. It's worth a shot to see if you can get him to give up.

  8. #8
    Ethereal Contributor
    jimmyolsenblues's Avatar
    Posts
    1,384
    Reputation
    29
    Tagged in
    492 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    I have no idea why someone would get mad at you for buying out his auctions.
    He is a troll and just put him on ignore.
    He shouldn't post at that price if he doesn't want his competitors to buy out his crafted stock.

    Have you looked cross faction. In wrath I never sold one glyph horde side, I sold inks but all my glyph sales were sent to my second account that only posted on alliance, I have no professions on that account because I haven't leveled a toon there.

  9. #9
    US-Medivh (A)
    Entrepreneur
    EnigmaticClarity's Avatar
    Posts
    447
    Reputation
    14
    Tagged in
    211 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyolsenblues View Post
    I have no idea why someone would get mad at you for buying out his auctions.
    He is a troll and just put him on ignore.
    He shouldn't post at that price if he doesn't want his competitors to buy out his crafted stock.
    The simplest explanation is most likely the right one here--it just didn't occur to him that he'd get bought out. His anger is then quite simple to understand--he got owned and it pissed him off.

  10. #10
    hag
    Entrepreneur
    hag's Avatar
    Posts
    284
    Reputation
    17
    Tagged in
    90 Posts
    Add to this user's reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by blacklamb View Post
    To be honest, I do the same thing on my server. Call to Auction gave me the idea, actually. Their point was, if you find yourself consistently being undercut and having a ton of competition, instead of wasting all your time undercutting, just depress the market so that you don't have to worry about it anymore. Sure, I only make a fraction of what I used to, but like Stede said, if I can't make gold, why should anyone else? Petty? Maybe, but this is another form of PvP. And I have more then enough ink to last the entire expansion, which I intend to do. To be honest I think some of the melodramatic letters I've gotten from my competition has made it more then worth it, let alone all the time I no longer have to invest.
    ^ except I think it was Stede's co-host, Basil, who writes for WoW Insider.

    So they could be a Robin Hood, they could be a "if you are going to undercut nobody is making anything", or it could be a long term plan to drive everyone away in hopes of gettign monopoly rents. The last seems less likely to work in MoP since the SoW and BoA staves mean there are far more scribes these days.

    It doesn't really cost much to do that as long as you post in the 20-25g range. Make 20 of each of say 200 glyphs. On my server, 25g glyphs get undercut as quickly as 250g. So you don't sell many but then you don't have to restock many. In this range, the undercutter is profitable so it is unclear how successful buying them out will be; it might just cause them to post a deeper wall. It's not a lot of time; Robin Hood only needs to TSM repost 4 times a week.

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 Last

Similar Threads

  1. Glyph boom ON!
    By jesterodoom in forum Archive (Auction House)
    Replies: 227
    Last Post: September 6th, 2012, 03:25 PM
  2. Glyph PvP - looking for suggestions
    By Overhead in forum Archive (Auction House)
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: April 5th, 2012, 09:17 AM
  3. Posting confusion: Glyph and non-glyph restock
    By vidiviciveni in forum General TradeSkillMaster Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: July 9th, 2011, 05:00 PM