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    Trading ink before Cata??

    Like most active inscriptions I mill thousands of herbs each week. Right now I buy wotlk herbs and make . To get other kinds of ink, I just trade 1:1 in Dalaran.

    As I understand it this trading option is going away in Cata. As I understand it I will be able to trade for other inks at 1:1.

    I’m not 100% sure this information is correct, but let us assume it is.

    For a long period of time Cata Herbs will be very expensive to buy and mill. In the same time a lot of the farmers will leave WOTLK area and move to cata areas for farming and levelling. The supply of wotlk herbs will properly drop significantly, and prices go up. I expect that there will still be a pretty large demand for glyphs. Not like when 4.0.1. launched, but I’m still taking home 2-5.000G a day in the glyph market depending on who many times I do the undercut procedure.

    Because I expect prices for WOTLK and CATA herbs to be higher then at present time, I have started stockpiling . I’m aiming for around 6.000 / 300 stacks = materials for 2.000 glyphs.

    My problem is:

    If the option for trading to other inks like , ect. are gone I need to trade the inks before Cata launches.

    When I craft glyphs I make a summery in ZeroAuctions of the glyphmarket, and make glyphs so I have 4 or each costing “my production cost x 3” on the AH. I use ZA to trade inks and buy parchments – and not really paying attention to which ink I buy in what amount.

    The result is, that I don’t really have a feel for which ration I need to trade the inks at.

    I read some post somewhere about the matter, but can’t find it.

    • Are you stockpiling Herbs / Inks?
    • Are you trading inks pre cata?

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    The thread you're looking for is on JMTC: Distributions of Inks for Glyphs

    I've not started to stockpile my inks yet as I'm still working on getting a stock of 20 of each ready - up to 16 now so no too many left.
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    Thats was the thread I was refering to Thx

    I think i'll craft a lot of the best selling glyphs, and keep a stock of inks after your list.

    Now I just need to get rid of 1.000 . My main buyer became insane last week, so my stock are getting larger by the hour.

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    I agree with Meyer. Besides top sellers, I tried to get some low level glyphs for people starting new characters, as well as extra glyphs for classes I think will be popular. (Tauren Paladins o.O)

    I then kept some extra inks to make extra glyphs that are selling faster than others too.

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    I never understood how people make so much off glyphs. Maybe its just my server, but at the time I was trying to get in on the glyph market I would check back/undercut almost hourly and still only get a few hundred or less gold revenue. When I post em without checking back often I'm lucky to sell a single glyph. I think I'll stick to selling inks and herbs in cata...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moravec View Post
    The thread you're looking for is on JMTC: Distributions of Inks for Glyphs

    I've not started to stockpile my inks yet as I'm still working on getting a stock of 20 of each ready - up to 16 now so no too many left.
    That post is the one you need to check out. Basically if you plan on being able to continue to be competitive selling glyphs in the start of Cata then you need to do this now. Also interesting to note if you read through to the end someone was able to run the numbers on glyphs that are worth more over all the glyphs and found just looking at the ones you would want to focus on the distribution of ink is almost the same.
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    There's no harm in just stockpiling the Ink, broken down per the JMTC formula there.

    Its not a popular opinion but I personally think that Glyphs are going to have a pretty short lifespan after Cata settles in. Buy up cheap Glyphs, especially DK & low level "essential" skills under 10g/per a couple weeks before Cata drops. Mill your herbs, keep the Ink, use some on Glyphs early & meet market demand. Sit on the rest and observe. Having the Ink in raw form gives you a nice ripcord if things go south.

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    Here's different math:

    One bank tab holds 1960 inks.
    1960 / 3 = 653.3333
    106 glyphs use IoTS
    653.3333 / 106 = 6.16
    So for each tab of IoTS you stock you can make around 6.16 of each class's IoTS glyphs.

    So without trading them in, stockpiles won't last very long.

    I have two bank tabs and I"m not bothering to exchange them. Between and glyphs I'll run out before I want to anyway.

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    I never understood how people make so much off glyphs. Maybe its just my server, but at the time I was trying to get in on the glyph market I would check back/undercut almost hourly and still only get a few hundred or less gold revenue. When I post em without checking back often I'm lucky to sell a single glyph. I think I'll stick to selling inks and herbs in cata...
    Making profit from the glyph market is all about volume in my case

    I can give you my numbers and key tools.

    I use 2 banktoons both with 4 x 32 inscription banks. That’s 288 bagslots (witch often gives me some problems as I’m loser to open op a 3rd seller then to remove on.

    I can craft 97-98% of the glyphs (Have read all books, but need a few research.

    I use Zero Auctions to post and cancel auctions.

    I have setup ZA with a 15G threshold and 100 G fallback

    When I get home from work I make pick up money in the mailbox, and start the undercut-procedure.

    I get ZA to find the auctions that needs cancelling (on both toons).
    I pick them up in the mailbag (which is the dull part with the 50mail/min rule – and the undercut procedure are often +300 mail total)
    I use ZA to post the auctions (15G/100G rule)

    After I have posted on both toons I use the Summery function. I get a quick overview of the market. With altoholic installed I can se which ones I can’t craft in the summerylist.

    I make sure I’m “green” (=cheapest) in every single glyph at 30G or more (which I am for the ones I have, as I just posted them). If I need to restock on some of them I just click the list in ZA and it adds the glyph to a production list (need 2 – click 2 times).

    I also check if there’s glyphs up where the supply are thin, like 2 for sale at 11 and 12G. If that’s the case I buy and repost them at 100G.

    When finished checking that I log my inscription, and in my profession window I get the “production list” which I made before on the AH toon. I visit the vendor for ink and parchment, and click “buy” in ZA window = it gets the materials needed to make the items in the production list. Then I click the items in the production list, and it make these glyphs in the amount I ordered.

    When finished crafting I send the glyphs to my selling toons, and make new “post” run (which doesn’t take long, and I posted at cheapest 5 min earlier)

    All this takes about 35-40 min.

    1-3 hours later and before I go to bed I make a “cancel + repost run” which takes about 15-20 min.

    I started a glyphseller AFTER 4.0.1. I din’t have a stock of either Herbs or glyphs, so all my profit comes from pure buy – craft – sell. My glyph profit is +125.000G. These days I still make 3-4.000G a day which make the 1 hour worth it. Especially in the weekends in the aftermoon where I have the time to check for undercutters more often I make a lot.

    I use the following “rules” when buying Herbs:

    My By price for Adder’s, Icethorn and Lichbloom (almost only use adder’s) is 20G/stack (max).
    From 1 stack I get 1 snowfall ink which I value at 5G (I usually sell it at 7-9G, but in my calculation I only use 5G to be on the safe side, and are not willing to sell for less = or else I’ll start making Darkmooncards myself). I get 6 Ink of the sea of a stack which means my cost is: (20-5) / 6 * 3 = 7,5G in inks per glyph. (+parchment ).

    I undercut any price down to 15G where I stop selling (and at that price I still make 100%, but I don’t think it’s worth the work to earn less then 7,5G per glyph). I have the glyphs in stock – and it’s just a mather of time before the market runes out of cheap ones, and the price resets - often at 100G.

    As it takes to long to handle every glyph in the game I only restock on glyphs at 30G or more.

    I try having a stock of 2-4 of each, and I only post 2 at a time.

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    @Meyer - I have been a dedicated Glyph seller since 3.3.3 myself, I would just like to point out a couple of suggestions, Only post 1 of each glyph at a time, use 3 characters with 3 classes per with one class split between the 3, this makes it so you rarely go above the 50 mail cap when canceling (to save time). Put your Threshold to somewhere around 25g, yes you can sell some cheaper now but really its not worth it, just save those glyphs for after cata. And also increase your fallback to ~300g, trust me they sell for that much, people are lazy or have enough money that that do not care. Oh and the last tip, check the AH regularly for glyphs under 6g, buy them up and save them for cata. Even if you have 20 of the same glyph you will sell it at some point in the future.