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    Darkmoon decks

    I was just looking for some advice about the Darkmoon deck market. I know it slows with each faire and varies from server to server but just looking for some general input.

    This is going to be my first time trying to sell decks, i've got about 14k-16k in 7 decks and about 3 more needing 1-2 cards. I was thinking about dropping another 15k and see if I can get to 15 decks. Anyone have any thoughts on how fast they move and does anyone have any predictions on the next faire? ATM there are 9 decks and 10 completed trinkets on the AH.

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    I think how the next darkmoon fair turns out will depend heavily on the feel that the market has in general for how close to 4.2 we are. We're not in the same place we were in WotLK, where some DMF cards were best in slot for some specs until ICC. Volcano and Tsunami are solid decks currently, but in 4.2, there will be higher iLvl trinkets you can get from dailies, and I'm pretty sure that the raid will be dropping even higher iLvl, even on normal.

    You'll still sell DMF cards to people that are trying to hit a certain average iLvl to get into heroics or Zandalar heroics, but the number of people that can and will spend much gold hitting those kinds of marks isn't going to be as large a market as it is now, when these trinkets are potentially BiS.

    My plan is to put effort into finishing up any DFM decks I've got in progress, sell any loose cards during the fair, and sell the resulting cards either during the fair or just after it, depending on how close to 4.2 my server thinks we are.

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    From what I've seen, there seems to be roughly double the number of cards and decks up during the faire as opposed to the other 3 weeks, so be prepared for some competition. I would be cautious of investing a lot in DMF at this stage of the game. The problem with the DMF cards is that your options become progressively more limited as you go along. Once you turn the cards into a deck, you have 2 options. Once you turn in your decks, you have only 1 option. I would consider trying to spread out your inventory between Trinkets, Cards, and Decks to give yourself as much exposure as possible.

    You also might need to lower your expectations a bit, too. With avg. iLvls up since 4.1 dropped, and a new tier of gear on the horizon, people don't NEED these trinkets the way they might have a few months ago.

    I think the best approach might be to wait until you've made some profit from your original decks and then reinvest some of that.
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    I've already started backing off on DMF card & deck making. I have 6 decks to sell off this coming faire, and then I will probably just sell off the remaining cards I have as leftovers, for whatever I can get for them.

    I'm still buying up stacks at 40g or less though, but my philosophy has changed. I now just sell off the I get (well most of them... I am stocking away some for 4.2 as well), then use the to make , , and trade for and . I also use some MFCs to make . If I have a major excess of Blackfallow Ink still, then I will sometimes just sell it off straight on the AH as well.

    But I always diversify it around all the various areas mentioned, to improve my ROI on the Whiptail. In most cases, selling the Inferno Ink nearly pays for all the Whiptail I've bought, so everything else I sell is complete gravy.

    EDIT: I have started once again looking into the Inscription-made relics and off-hands, to see if they are profitable to make & sell. About a month or so ago, I looked into it and it wasn't profitable at the time. But that is another option for diversification.

    Come 4.2 and being able to make new PvP relics, that will create some higher demand for Inferno Ink, as well as Volatile Life. So it would be good to have some saved up.
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    I think the three responses so far ignore one critical piece of information. Namely, is the 15k you've invested so far a big investment for you? What about the 30k you are proposing? If either of these numbers is not a huge amount of your capital tied up in one place (potentially for a while), then you should absolutely make the decks. 2k per deck should give you a good return.

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    It will depend on how much the cost per deck is however. If 15k is not alot to invest, but it costs you 4-5k to make each deck (as it does on my server, since Volatile Life is still 8-9g per), is it really worth it? If 2k per deck, then yes, I could see it still being worth it. But, in my case, it's becoming less worthwhile to make DMF decks when it costs 4-5k per deck. Hurricane decks are selling for 6k now, Volcano decks at 8-9k, and Tsunami decks 14-15k. Obviously, it'd be great to make Tsunami decks all the time, but that won't happen. I get more Stones and Winds cards than Embers & Waves cards. Statistically working it out, I cold still make a bit of profit, but prices will drop on the trinkets will continue to drop and the price of volatiles aren't dropping in price at all. Come 4.2, they could very likely increase again, while the trinkets will continue to decrease.

    So yes, if the investment of 15k is not a big deal to you, then thats fine. But you do have to consider what the cost of making a deck is as well. If it truly is only 2k for you to make a deck, then you could probably keep at it.


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    Nerfarious, my biggest piece of advice I can give you is this...

    Don't sell your decks/trinkets during faire week. Wait until a week or so after the faire is gone to sell. The supply of trinkets will be less and prices tend to be a bit higher than during faire week when most others are trying to sell off their supply and sell for lower prices to do so.


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    It really depends on the server. I found that my trinkets sold best in teh week to 1.5 weeks before the faire when the competition has sold out. I can get 13-18k for Tsunami, 10-15k for Volcano and Hurricane, and 4-8k (depending on competition) for Earthquake decks.

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    I am doing the same thing as Drrwho. I have nearly entirely exited the DMF market, merely because I have no interest in to having to camp the AH to move enough volume of trinkets to avoid having a gross amount of overstock going into the next faire. Instead I am trading away my inferno inks for blackfallow, and increasing my stock of that for glyphs, mfcs, and fortune cookies. I still sell relics though. It's just a convenience factor for myself that has lead my withdrawal from the market until the next expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darraxus View Post
    It really depends on the server. I found that my trinkets sold best in teh week to 1.5 weeks before the faire when the competition has sold out. I can get 13-18k for Tsunami, 10-15k for Volcano and Hurricane, and 4-8k (depending on competition) for Earthquake decks.
    Yea, I should re-phrase my earlier statement... basically what I meant to say was don't sell the trinkets during faire week. Wait at least a week or so after the faire is gone to START selling trinkets. But, as Darraxus said, on some servers (if not most), it may be even better to wait until a week or so BEFORE the next faire starts before you sell your trinkets. It will just depend on your server, as to when trinket stock dries up. If it dries up relatively quickly after the faire leaves, then you may be able to sell your trinkets a bit earlier and still get better prices for them due to limited supply.

    At either rate, one key factor is watching the market and knowing what's available from competitors. It sounds like you've already started that to some extent by noticing what the current trinket stock is up on the AH. But some people will sell through trade chat only, so keep an eye on that as well and take note. Knowing what's out there and what your competition is doing is a big key to success in this market.


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