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    where to go from here?

    hello,

    I play on Burning Blade, the economy of the server seems prosperous. My character is a warlock lvl 85 and is my only one that I play as a main. I currently have mining and engineering professions. Mining is at 430 and engineering at 380. I'd really like to continue keeping the mining but what should i do with engineering to earn gold. or should i drop it, if so for what would that be.

    I thought about doing tailoring with mining or maybe jewel crafting. What other possible recommendations would u suggest I do to earn gold as I'd really like to earn enough to buy me a mechanochopper, as currently im sitting at 8k gold.

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    Well to start things off you can make some nice gold with engineeering. For a start if you want a hog anyway then you can get the pattern yourself and make them to sell for profit.
    Pets are also the other mian source of income, and not just the high level ones so if you have/get hold of some of the low level ones you can start making some gold without doing anything.
    These items tend to be highly profitable but also can be sparodic.e.g. sometimes i can sell one of each a day or sometimes i don't sell any for a week.

    Of the two professions you have mining should be the one you are considering to get rid of, although it does have some minor uses but JC would be much more profitable. If you were trying to save gold you could use your mining to farm the mats before you drop it and power level JC with your own mats and also the mats to finish off your engineering.

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    I would agree with Fluffy IF you had a little more gold. But at 8k, I think your investment into gold making with engineering would dig a little deeper into your gold stash than you might be comfortable with. My advice would be to FARM (I know, I know, these are not the FARMING forums, but come on, you can only lose TIME mining), until you got higher into the 5-figures, and I'm not talking 10,001. I think once you did that, then it might be more feasible to be successful in Engineering on a larger scale. Then - I might drop mining and fill it with JC.
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    Id say at least drop eng for tailoring which is much more profitable at Cashious's current financial level. It wouldnt require a huge investment to powerlevel and has many profitable items for selling or DEing.

    Buying ore from the AH, smelting and posting bars an help make a few quick bucks, but JC or Enchanting might be better suited to a warlock. These will be costly to level though.
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    Aeg, I agree with you. The only reason I recommended it was because it's a no-loss investment. What I *MEAN* by no-loss is that if gold is his priority, farming won't diminish his gold stores. There *IS* an opportunity cost, of course because farmed items are NOT free. But I was merely saying that he won't lose the 8k he's already got by farming. Investing in ANYTHING else could result in losses that may be larger than he can stomach right now. Even in real life scenarios, experts won't recommend riskier investment strategies (that most often have much higher returns) until you've built up a base.

    Maybe a better way of saying it is that I think the OP needs a higher base before investing too much in profession mats to try to sell. If he even took half of his liquidity, invested it in mats to craft some engineering item...all it would take would be one post on MMO-Champion about speculated 4.2 Patch changes to wipe out his 4k. At least with farming he can preserve his capital. And again, I'm ONLY talking at this small of a base....I would not follow this same advice if he had, say 15-20k in gold. Then I would look at diversifying a little - maybe a few engineering crafted items, some shuffling, some epic flipping, etc.
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    You need seed capital, and one way to get it is to farm it. This is exactly how I started:

    1- Solo Kara boss runs (gold and DE drops), sell the results. Boss gold drops have been nerfed, but there are alternatives. I also did solo Kara runs on my DK, and a few shorter runs on my less geared ret pally. It all added up, and fast; that's 3 runs per week with a minimum of about 400g per, more like 2-3k per week with little effort or risk other than some repair bills.
    2- Imperfect/perfect draenethyst stone runs; sell the resulting blues/greens.
    3- Scan the AH daily for 8-10 days, snatch up DE/low priced greens/blues, flip for profit.
    4- Farmed my own obsidium/elementium while levelling three characters to 85 (all had mining at the time; 1 BS, 1 chanter, 1 JC).
    5- Daily grind on my main for Cata factions, cooking, and fishing.

    By the time I was getting into my fourth and fifth toons (tailor and scribe), my gold stash was around 21k and rising daily, albeit slowly. Once I stopped farming and moved into seriously playing the AH, I was able to pour some cash into maxxing inscription and tailoring. Once that was complete... I went from 21k on Feb 20, to 375k as of yesterday.

    Bottom line, I agree that 8k gold isn't enough seed money to feel comfortable investing it and still having enough to live on. But that's me, you may see it differently.

    Good luck whatever you do, there's plenty of good info here to get you where you want to go.

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    Cashious, there are plenty of ways to make gold without relying on your professions. I would check out some of the recent contest entries for some ideas, and the some of the "recipe runs" in the quality guide section. A lot of the engineering opportunities carry a heavy investment cost with them and/or don't sell as frequently as some of the other profession's goods, but at the same time, you need to look at your current situation and ask yourself it you feel it would be worth it to drop a profession just to powerlevel another.
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    To make a profit with engineering, look into the following things (some of these have been mentioned, but I'll be a bit more explicit):


    s; small sporadic income, but profitable none the less.

    Farm these two recipes: and and start selling the crafted pets.

    Look into whether your server allows you to profit from , this will depend on the prices for , and . Either of these three being too expensive will generally ruin the whole thing. On my old server these sold for 50% of material prices for example.

    Depending on your engineering specialization, you will be able to craft either or , these crafts tend to be fairly profitable.

    The ability to craft comes from a quest in Winterspring; this item, while sometimes hard to find materials for, is a great source of income as it is generally sold by very few people (you don't have to farm the mats, just collect them through the auction house over time).

    has become very profitable recently (they are used for leveling engineering, so they used to sell for far less than the materials, but are now, on my server, rather expensive).


    I would strongly advise against dropping engineering. It is by far the most fun profession in the game and still quite a decent profession for making gold as the competition in these markets are commonly (speaking from personal experience) rather small, requires little upkeep and does not require a heavy amount of liquid gold to make use of.
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    The scope is interesting because with a new and probably better BIS scope coming in 4.2 (assuming datamined info is correct) those current scope will probably lose some value. I am selling them at a profit right now but I am being carefull with not overstocking too much at this point.
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