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    Milling Breakdown

    Is there a milling results breakdown besides Wowhead? I'd like to compare the different levels of success and come up with a price analysis list.

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    I'm not sure about a breakdown but for Cata herbs I use a rule of thumb of 1 stack of lower level herbs equals 1 inferno ink and 1 stack of higher level herbs (twilight jasmin, whiptail) equals 1.6 inferno inks. This is assuming all BF ink is converted.

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    http://20kleveling.com/JMTCforum/vie...73e06bahttp://

    That might be the best info our there, although the data seems to be a bit old.
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    Level 80 and below herbs are easy to figure out. Let's take Outlands Herbs for example. Everything from 61-65 results in roughly the same. Each mill will give you 2-3 pigments per mill, with an average of 10 pigments (2.5x4), so 5 inks. Item Level herbs 66-70 can give you 2-4 pigments per mill, with an average of 12 pigments per stack (3x4).

    When I'm buying herbs, I tend to buy in brackets. So for item levels 1-5 I'll pay something like 30g MAX per stack, and item levels 6-0 I'll pay 36g MAX per stack. This way, on average I'm paying 6g per ink, or 18g per glyph. I made a post outlining each ink and the herbs for that, from lowest ilevel to highest. Take a read here: http://consortium.stormspire.net/sho...iption-Profits

    As far as Cata herbs go, they are somewhat of a different beast. From my tests, it seems that Blizzard decided to make this tier of herbs much easier to understand and figure out. Cinderbloom, Stormvine, Azshara's Veil, and Heartblossom all AVERAGE the same out of inks, around 5 per stack. I've milled about 1,000 of each of these and I can reliably say I haven't seen one that is better than the other. So when purchasing these to mill, just find whatever one is the cheapest.

    However, Whiptail and Twilight Jasmine seem to be giving the same as each other as well. Whiptail is ilevel 84 and Twilight Jasmine is 85, yet they both yield the same results. I've milled literally about 10,000 of these herbs since Cata launched, and my numbers haven't changed much. I buy my stacks of Whiptail and Twilight Jasmine for 160g max, so about 25g~ per blackfallow ink, if you completely ignore the Inferno ink.

    Now if you're going for Inferno Inks (or other rare inks), never buy the low level shit, only buy high level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeroft View Post
    As far as Cata herbs go, they are somewhat of a different beast. From my tests, it seems that Blizzard decided to make this tier of herbs much easier to understand and figure out. Cinderbloom, Stormvine, Azshara's Veil, and Heartblossom all AVERAGE the same out of inks, around 5 per stack. I've milled about 1,000 of each of these and I can reliably say I haven't seen one that is better than the other. So when purchasing these to mill, just find whatever one is the cheapest.

    However, Whiptail and Twilight Jasmine seem to be giving the same as each other as well. Whiptail is ilevel 84 and Twilight Jasmine is 85, yet they both yield the same results. I've milled literally about 10,000 of these herbs since Cata launched, and my numbers haven't changed much. I buy my stacks of Whiptail and Twilight Jasmine for 160g max, so about 25g~ per blackfallow ink, if you completely ignore the Inferno ink.
    Do you have any raw empirical data? No offense intended, but I see a lot of "usually", "tend to" and "should" being thrown around these days. The type of analysis I"m looking to do needs to be more precise than that. Is your 10k number stacks, mills, or herbs? 10k stack is a significant sample size, 2500 stacks pretty solid, 500 stacks not so much if spread about the different tiers.

    The JMTC link is good, I'll sort through it, if anyone else has good strong raw data I'd love it. Will post my results once I'm done.

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    I have been using one stack of lower herbs = 5.5 new inks seemed to work out good for a sample size of 68 stacks of cinderbloom. This yieleded 336 bf ink and 39 inferno ink.

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    I'm sure I do, but I don't constantly check it. I use that mod that always says what mills into, des into, etc but not sure how to export that into a friendly format. I'll take a look tonight at exporting the data and see if I can get that for you.

    10,000 = stacks, and that's a rough estimate but my BeanCounter says I've spent 60k~ on Twilight Jasmine and 45k~ on Whiptail, and I usually buy for 160-200g a stack. I'm at work right now, but when I get home I'll upload some beancounter data and try to find a way to export my milling results. If you know how to do that, feel free to post it here or gimme a link because I've never done that before. This is all math that I keep track of via notepad and a simple calc, and my averages are always very very close to what I was expecting.
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    If it helps, I'm starting to venture into inscription. Since this is probably the last really big DMF I've been buying herbs for weeks (can't really count them but around the 2k stacks).
    Once my Warlock hits 75 (somewhere this weekend) I'll start milling and post the results if it helps.

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    Awesome, thanks. I spreadsheet all of my milling and prospecting (see Vendor Floor pricing as an example) so I have empirical data to work with and can come up with precise Breakeven and Alternative Market analysis.

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    I will be milling some as well this weekend. results to follow.
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