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    BC and WOTLK gems

    Currently I am leveling three alts that are all in the level 65-70 range. Starting to pick up slotted items from quests, etc. There are NO cut gems available at the AH for these item levels. a Gazillion pages of the "new" gems with the ilevel 285+, but nothing for these leveling alts. Of these three alts, two are miners and one is a JC as well. My intention is to level quickly while grinding my professions at the same time.

    If there are many people leveling (Nagrand actually has constant "chatter" on /1), I would see this as a major opportunity to supply an old market. I'm farming enough ore while leveling the two alts to more than supply my JC. Having no other JC, I am anxious to see if I can get cuts, etc. fast enough to play in this leveling market.

    Any others out there see any potential in this on other servers?

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    Nope. I could spend an hour cutting TBC gems for 10g a cut, or I could go farm 2500g worth of Cata materials in the same amount of time. Not worth it, IMO.

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    Whatever you choose to do, don't cut any , they're used for the , so they're worth alot uncut.

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    I have to kinda agree with Praxel the BC cut gem market, if any, has to be pretty small. I'd craft stuff for myself, keep skillups for resale, and maybe link my Jewelcrafting in general chat every so often LFW. Past that, I don't see it being a huge money-maker, but it could turn a decent amount of coin for a lowbie (5-10k, max, imo).
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    I forgot to mention one important part... I have been stockpiling all green and blue gems that dropped on all my alts since the start of BC, in hopes of making a JC. I am now at that point, so there will be no need to purchase the gems themselves (I have tons of shiny). Most of what I see listed in the blues are about 5-10g apiece uncut, and the cuts that I have seen (only for prot spec) are listed around 30-45g per.

    @Praxel - point well taken. I was only looking for a potentially small niche that might be upon us, with so many levelers out there.

    @Belzebutinov - All are in the capable hands of my tailor, but thanks for the reminder!

    @Stede - I think your course of action is probably the best. I will level up my JC, while focusing on my alt needs first, then see if there is any market there before committing heavily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenC View Post
    I forgot to mention one important part... I have been stockpiling all green and blue gems that dropped on all my alts since the start of BC, in hopes of making a JC. I am now at that point, so there will be no need to purchase the gems themselves (I have tons of shiny). Most of what I see listed in the blues are about 5-10g apiece uncut, and the cuts that I have seen (only for prot spec) are listed around 30-45g per.

    @Praxel - point well taken. I was only looking for a potentially small niche that might be upon us, with so many levelers out there.

    @Belzebutinov - All are in the capable hands of my tailor, but thanks for the reminder!

    @Stede - I think your course of action is probably the best. I will level up my JC, while focusing on my alt needs first, then see if there is any market there before committing heavily.
    All BC green gems are a great flip when you find them, and has been one of my favorite niche markets since early WotLK. and rarely ever get prospected for any reason other than to level JC - AND the demand is always steady from BS & Engy, so the supply is always limited. Nobody realizes they need a lot of green TBC gems while leveling JC until they've already bought up all the adamantite and fel iron and they're still 30 skill points short. I learned this when levleing JC myself.

    Snatching everything but and relisting upwards of 8g each will always yield positive results if you do it in batches. Snatch up gems, but dont immediately re-list, just let the price stay low then re-list at 300% market until your stock is gone. Usually some JC will come through and buy the lot, very rarely will it go slowly over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxel View Post
    Nope. I could spend an hour cutting TBC gems for 10g a cut, or I could go farm 2500g worth of Cata materials in the same amount of time. Not worth it, IMO.
    Exactly. Sadly, your idea was a GREAT idea 1-6 months pre-cataclysm. But right now, it's a poor use of your time. in fact, I would argue it might even be better for you to find a "farmer", and let him farm it for you, BUY the ores at a respectable price (with the gobs of gold you make farming and selling Cataclysm raw mats), he makes a little, you make a lot, and everybody goes home happy.

    This is exactly what I did pre-cataclysm - while creating and selling JC "Kits", I stocked hundreds of stacks of old world ores to be prospected into gems for JC kits, some farmed by me, but MUCH farmed by "workers" I hired.
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    I did speculate on this a little and kept back some of my gems to test the waters a bit rather than just simply cut/craft-vendor/DE them all straight away.
    As i suspected would be the case the market is so small it's simply not worth the effort. You can either post them on the AH and pour any profits down the drain in multiple posting costs or go back to spamming in trade for business.

    It might be more worthwhile if your leveling through TBC content and have gems lying around uncut or pre cut from leveling JC as you can advertise in old areas while you level but you still have to go face to face which is often more hassle than it's worth anyway.

    Most people i inspect while leveling either have heirloom gear anyway or if they do have gear that can be socketed they don't even bother as it will be redundant in a couple of hours game play due to the speed of leveling these days.

    I understand why they put the restriction on the gems but i think it would have been better served to only restrict the rare and [possibly] future epic gems as the uncommon gems are only equivalent to wrath epics anyway. This would keep a supply of easily available gems for people who do actually bother to socket leveling gear and also keep the uncommon market a little more lively for the whole expansion.
    Last edited by Thefluffyrocker; January 4th, 2011 at 09:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namssob View Post
    ...Sadly, your idea was a GREAT idea 1-6 months pre-cataclysm...
    Story of my life sometimes! I appreciate all the perspectives and will take "not worth it" as the Consortium gospel. I will continue to get the three into 70-land and then get back to the main business of get my four mains to 85 (one down).

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    Most people i inspect while leveling either have heirloom gear anyway or if they do have gear that can be socketed they don't even bother as it will be redundant in a couple of hours game play due to the speed of leveling these days.
    What he said. There are probably people out there who take the time to actively gem their gear while they're leveling, but I imagine they're in the minority. I think most people blow through the TBC levels so fast that they barely have time to get back to an auction house and search for gems before they're ready to replace the stuff they're wearing.

 

 

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