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    JC tokens. To use or not to use. That is the question

    I plan on picking up a couple of meta gem cuts but after I think I am thinking about holding my tokens for the epic cuts. Once they come out I want to be the guy with the most epic cuts available.

    Any thoughts on this idea?

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    That is a great idea, but why are you shutting yourself out of the rare gem market? You don't have to buy all the blues and meta pattern just the ones that sell well or the niche gems that only a few people have. Another unknown is how many tokens epic cuts take when epic gems will be released. With some planning you can come out ahead on both markets.

    Edit: I'm predicting that epic gems will be available patch 4.2 sometime in August/Setember 2011. I'm using the 3.2 patch template for this guess.
    Last edited by Zenit; December 13th, 2010 at 08:41 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duck View Post
    I plan on picking up a couple of meta gem cuts but after I think I am thinking about holding my tokens for the epic cuts. Once they come out I want to be the guy with the most epic cuts available.

    Any thoughts on this idea?
    Who's to say they'll even be available from JC tokens? Sure, that was how it was in Wrath, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll repeat that model. Get yourself some rare cuts after your metas would be my advice
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    this seems like a good idea but like Moravec said we dont know if they are going to offer them yet. It seems like a logical conclusion that they would(it also seemed logical that heroics would drop epics on the final boss), but at the current state where blizz is trying to downgrade everything I would put my money on the wait and see option.
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    I plan to spend at least the next couple months buying up the patterns that I find useful and valuable. After that I will start stockpiling tokens for a while. There are a couple historical reasons for this. First, the epic patterns, like you mentioned. Second, when Blizzard finally introduced the epic patterns, they lowered the cost of other patterns. I don't anticipate being able to completely dominate the epic market when it starts with this strategy, however. There are just too many other JC's. Even now, there is competition on pretty much every pattern on the market.

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    I still haven't purchased all of the cuts from Wrath. :P


    I'm planning to do the same that I did with Epic cuts in Wrath: pick the solid sellers and then expand from there. I won't be stockpiling tokens until it's confirmed how epic cuts are going to show up. There is way too much gold left on the table if you deliberately shut yourself out of the cut gems markets.

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    Thinking about this a little, since BC, JC recipes are available in the least though off places, I would not count on the fact that all recipes are vendor available for Cata epic gems. I don't like recipe that drop exclusively in dungeons/raids, or in fact any profession's recipes.
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    Use this as your guide:

    Burning Crusade - Only available to cutting edge raiders initially through raid drop in BT/MH while unique-equipped versions remained available pre-cut in heroics. They were opened to the general public 1.5 years after release and only via badge turn-ins or JC transmutes. They removed attunements in 2.4 so most people had access to BT/MH drops. They allowed the entire population full access to T6/T6.5 for only 8.5 months, of which the final 2 months all bosses lost 30% of their hitpoints. JC's had to earn reps in order to get the cuts. Ultimately, epics became available by the third tier of content.

    Wrath - Fishing daily offered them on a very rare chance, and were unique-equipped and already cut. 9 months from release and 2 tiers of content later they became available through transmute, Icy Prisms, prospecting, and badge/honor point turn-ins. ICC remained in place to the general population for exactly one year. Recipes were available through the tokens. Regardless, epics became available by the third tier of content (TOC).

    Cataclysm - You have 5 character levels and this expansion took 2 years to develop and amazingly they only made it five so they could get it out faster... yeah, right. This expansion is expected to remain in place for 2 years while they work on the next one (it's already in the works).

    Blizz has this thing for not repeating themselves and making it something you can just plan on - the like to hit you between the eyes with things. Given the game has become starkly casual over time, with incentives for raiding higher end content in a normal setting and leaving the hardcores to their own type of encounters (and not giving them rewards beyond slightly better gear), you are going to probably see a rep grind based on a raid or an instance (like TBC) with patterns becoming purchasable at different tiers and for simply gold. This will be something available to everyone and will remove exclusivity as they are wanting the player base to participate in current content raiding. Think more casual.

    So to answer the OP question - buy all the patterns that are available to you and don't bother with saving them up. Keep doing them afterwards just for insurance, but there's no reason to believe they will repeat themselves. You will make ridiculous amounts of gold either way you go.

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    However they introduce epics gems and cuts, historically epic gems only start to arrive around mid expansion.i.e. a year away. You can easily but plenty of rare cuts now to take advantage of the huge profits available now and still have a very long time to save up tokens for possibly buying epic gems.
    As other have said once you have the cuts you want now simply keep doing the daily to horde tokens for possible epic release, you'll likely easily have enough tokens lying around to buy at least the most solid epics.

    Another point to consider is that current prices for rare gems are generally more than the prices for epics when they were released previously. You can sell rares now for 2-3 times as much as you'll likely get for epic gems when or if they are released.
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    Thank you everyone for your input. I think I will go ahead and get the current recipes.

 

 

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