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    DK Leveling Guidance

    I have a DK that I managed to fumble to 65 back in Wrath, so I could dabble in Inscription. Fast forward to present and he's still sitting there, having burned through his reserved supply of ink within the first two months of Cata.

    I plan on leveling him soon, but he's pretty much the only class I feel completely lost playing, so far.

    My only other melee experience is with a Rogue, so that may be part of the problem. I'd also like to use him to start learning how to tank. What I can't find is a proper guide to DKing. Now granted I haven't dug very deep. I do know about deathknight.info but I haven't been there in a while.

    Do Tankspot and DK.info supply the right info to get me started?

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    To offer a bit more constructive view, the way I usually approach playing a melee (especially solo) is to focus on how you are constantly going to be getting health back. With a DK, that means that Death Strike. Icy Touch and Plague Strike for diseases then Death Strike. If you have a single mob, double Blood Strike. If you have multiple mobs, Pestilence then Blood Boil. Once runes come back Death Strike again if things are still alive. Serious DK's will probably say something else, but I like to keep it simple since I don't play this toon much.

    My keys are:
    1 - Death Grip
    2 - Icy Touch
    3 - Plague Strike
    4 - Death Strike
    5 - Blood Strike
    6 - Depends on spec I'm using
    7 - Pestilence
    8 - Blood Boil
    9 - Death Coil

    Then it's pretty much always 1-2-3-4

    So, that's solo leveling for me. I ran as blood spec for the additional self-heal abilities. This way you never die and never stop killing.

    I have only done a little tanking with it and that gets a little more involved but I can try to offer some ideas when I get some more time.

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    As a Deathknight, basically, you want to spam deathstrike, especially with the ridiculous bonus from mastery (which you won't get before some time, but even until then, the simple healing part of it is ridiculous). The idea, for levelling, is basically to hit 2 death strikes and 2 heart strikes, and to take everything and anything in the blood tree that gives you healing. Here is a typical spec for level 65. You can throw points around here and there, it's not that hard a class to level Personally, I did the grin to 80 as frost, but that was back when frost was ridiculously overpowered, so I recommend blood now


    EDIT: Hadn't seen Caliana's post. One thing to add to that. IT and PS no longer affect your Death Strike's healing and damage. They used to, but no longer do, so if you're doing a single mob, I recommend not bothering. For multiple adds, the damage from the diseases is worth it though
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    Just for a change of pace, I was planning on trying to instance tank my way to 75 (and onward). Does gear really matter until you hit mid-70s? He's still in mostly DK-starting-area blues (which I understand are retarded good). I can use JPs to grab the tanking chest and shoulders, and I'm able to purchase helm and cloak.

    Based on the other classes I've leveled, the Heirloom weapons are usually pretty good. Should I try to grab them as well? Yes, these are retarded questions. I'm not sure how many JPs I have access to at the moment, but I feel I can likely scrounge my way to at least the chest and shoulders.

    Thanks to my guild, I can get pretty much anything crafted (I don't have a BS yet).

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    JP's aren't the best way to get the older heirlooms. I'd hit the Argent Tournament (assuming you can do all the quests on at least one toon) as you can buy them all with that currency. All the heirloom pieces should be a good start. Once you hit 70, fill out any openings with the cobalt set (http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.4?fil...obalt;maxrl=70). They are extremely cheap to make and may actually be better at times with the avoidance. Mid-70's you can start to throw in the (also very cheap) tempered saronite (http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=tempered+saronite) where you need it.

    On weapons, one problem that I had with the weapons (in relation to the DK) was that you couldn't use runeforging on them. Vanilla enchants are fine for leveling, but not so much for tanking. You might end up wanting to swap between drops, crafted and heirlooms depending on what's better at a given level.

    Edit: Also, I wouldn't bother with the heirloom trinkets. You only get the benefit (2% health return) if YOU make the killing blow. So, they are not good for tanking.

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    http://considerit1.wordpress.com/ - although Consider has since quit WoW, he's got a couple of good post and the 2h Frost template for leveling is amazing. Come 4.1 it'll only be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugsley View Post
    Just for a change of pace, I was planning on trying to instance tank my way to 75 (and onward). Does gear really matter until you hit mid-70s? He's still in mostly DK-starting-area blues (which I understand are retarded good). I can use JPs to grab the tanking chest and shoulders, and I'm able to purchase helm and cloak.

    Based on the other classes I've leveled, the Heirloom weapons are usually pretty good. Should I try to grab them as well? Yes, these are retarded questions. I'm not sure how many JPs I have access to at the moment, but I feel I can likely scrounge my way to at least the chest and shoulders.

    Thanks to my guild, I can get pretty much anything crafted (I don't have a BS yet).
    I tanked my old DK up to 80, but that was back in LK and I did it as Frost (good 'ol days). The cobalt set was definitely worth it, but that was back when you needed defense rating, and there wasn't really any other way for a DK to get it, so I don't know how things are looking now.

    As a DK tank, you shouldn't really have any issues with threat (I tanked Hellfire ramparts @ lvl 60 with my new DK once using only blood boil ), so you want to focus on either avoidance or stamina. I prefer stamina, since it allows for a higher margin of error if you get stuck with a sub-par healer. If you have a good healer to run with you, he'll love you for stacking avoidance.

    As far as the DK blues, they are GREAT, but really only for right after you finish the starter areas. My understanding is that they are the equivalent, stat-wise, to the lvl 60 dungeon sets. I found myself replacing them with Outlands quest gear through the 60's.
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    Even if freedomfries post isnt the most constructive her, he is telling you the truth, but first you should tell to which level you want him, for what you want him, if you are only interested in him becuase of gathering herbs and you dont intend to play him actually, do what ever you like. If you are more serious in playing him take a look at elitistjerks.com and adapt what you need.

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    While playing a DK may be easy, that isn't the kind of attitude we promote here. Mugsley is an entrenched member of the community, asking for help. Freedomfries has one post to his/her name, which was rude and not at all helpful, nor did it even remotely address the question being asked. The primary question asked was, "Do Tankspot and DK.info supply the right info to get me started?". We expect more here, as evidenced by the other replies.

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    It all depends on your perspective, but I would venture to say that every aspect of the game would be considered easy to at least someone. Can you "google" all of your questions these days? Of course you can, but it is a much more efficient use of your time to propose a question to a group of people whose opinions and experiences you already trust and respect than it is to sift through all the junk on the internet.

    It would be like if every appeal for gold-making help on these forums was met with a chorus of "just go farm stuff, noob". Will that get them the gold that they want? Yes. Are there better ways of doing it, though? Absolutely. That's what this community is about: trust and support. We are here to help each other, and I would like to think we can give google a run for their money as far as wow gold is concerned.
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