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    So what is/isn't selling well for you post 4.03a?

    For me, I had anditicpated 4.03a as being the last hurrah for inks/glyphs as people roll up new class/race combos but shorted by Jessica Sellers' change in business model.

    I stocked up mainly on trade goods thinking that cata would cause a massive demand for tradeskilling with all the new toons running around. Preliminary stockpile releases post 4.03a have been very discouraging.

    I was disappointed to find my inks didn't sell well at all, I put up stacks of 3 at 50g each with a 30g fallback. I had 0 competition and the inks just sat there. I sold maybe 3 in the first 48 hours. My stockpiled herbs I started releasing back into the wild simply got buried as the sagging demand for glyphs translated in cheaper herb prices. Every herb out there went down in price with new levelers (I'm assuming) taking a gathering profession for the experience bonus.

    Ore hasn't moved much at all, Mithril went from 60g/stack to 25g/stack...not a good sign if people are about to start flying around Azeroth.

    All types of leather dropped way below my snatch price.

    I'm nibbling the cheap trade goods off the bottom here and there but the direction I really thought the AH was going seems to be the opposite of what is happening thus far.

    What is selling are bags. Mooncloth bags and Netherweave bags went very well however. I'm up to about 25 bags a day at 20g+. Mooncloth bags take a little advertising in Trade. I advertise "Non-BOE Bag Packs" of 4 that you can transfer to your NEW goblin.

    Banked low-level crafted gear and BOE blues sold very well as I was able to surpisingly dump off a ton of leather gear I had accumulated while skilling up a leatherworker. I also had collected roughly 30-40 pieces of random greens and blues I thought people might want for cheap bids and threw it out there for a premium price, most of them sold.

    Glyphs are selling so-so if you're willing to sell them cheap(ish).

    Its still early to draw any real conclusions but my initial impression of 4.03a and beyond is that players are going with gathering professions 1st and then waiting until later to skill/learn any crafting professions. The market value of trade goods tripling or quadrupling doesn't seem as likely to me as it did a week ago.

    I'm hopeful that once people start working on crafting professions, I'll be able to pounce but I'm being a little more conservative on my buying that I have been. I'm looking at things through a different lens now.

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    Pretty much the only things I'm making money on this week are enchants, glyphs, and Deadmines BOE's.

    Ore of all types is down in price compared to pre-4.0.3a.

    Leather is way down.

    Herbs of most types are up in price, but I've been skilling up a scribe this week, so I've not been selling raw herbs, I've been buying. Outland herbs in particular are really high right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upfromtheashes View Post
    Pretty much the only things I'm making money on this week are enchants, glyphs, and Deadmines BOE's.

    Ore of all types is down in price compared to pre-4.0.3a.

    Leather is way down.

    Herbs of most types are up in price, but I've been skilling up a scribe this week, so I've not been selling raw herbs, I've been buying. Outland herbs in particular are really high right now.
    On my scribe I stockpiled quite a lot of inks before the patch as I knew they weren't going to be available to trade in after. However it seems a lot of people on my server didn't realise, and a lot of my competition simply don't have the mats readily available to keep up.

    Today I noticed this quite early and have bought out all their cheap glyphs that use celestial/jadefire/shimmering or especially ethereal inks. Re-listed them for anywhere between 80-200 gold and they're selling like hot cakes

    The only way they're going to do any type of catch up is to go and farm the herbs themselves, as none of the farmers on my server have left Northrend behind yet, except one I managed to persuade to farm in Outlands for me
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    I'm confused why people stockpiled so much of vanilla gatherable mats. There's going to be a continuous flood of new characters
    -New race combinations
    -New leveling experience that people will want to play through
    -Goblins/Worgens soon
    -Flying in old world
    The supply of these old world gatherable mats is going to far outweigh the demand for them for a very long time. I haven't made an alt in two years, but I'm having so much fun leveling through the new content, I'm eventually going to make alts to play through each continent on both horde and alliance.

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    Leveling charachters with 1 gathering and 1 crafting profession will usually still need more items then they can gather. There are choke points in every profession that cause this.

    Toons leveling 2 gathering professions are still rare. I am in a guild with 10 rerollers right now and none of them are going double gatherer. Even the players that do level 2 gathering professions are still focused on leveling not making gold and will not go back to farm extra vanilla mats.

    This is a rush time where people want to get things done asap and farming is on the bottom of priorities. Same reason a lot of goblins will be farming the first week of Cata.

    I do happen to agree that once old world flying comes and things settle down it will increase the availabilty of some old world mats, however inflation is looking to be fairly strong and should hold past that due to the amount of rerollers looking for mats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fade View Post
    I stocked up mainly on trade goods thinking that cata would cause a massive demand for tradeskilling with all the new toons running around. Preliminary stockpile releases post 4.03a have been very discouraging.

    I was disappointed to find my inks didn't sell well at all, I put up stacks of 3 at 50g each with a 30g fallback. I had 0 competition and the inks just sat there. I sold maybe 3 in the first 48 hours. My stockpiled herbs I started releasing back into the wild simply got buried as the sagging demand for glyphs translated in cheaper herb prices. Every herb out there went down in price with new levelers (I'm assuming) taking a gathering profession for the experience bonus.
    You are hoping for a return too quickly. Other people, even those who made no preparations for 4.0.3a will have some amount of stock in hand. They will be selling inks and glyphs as well as you. Your sales should pick up as the herb and ink stocks on the market run dry and other scribes begin to panic buy the lower level herbs to keep their business afloat. This will drive up the price of inks, and thus glyphs, and this is where your preparation comes into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fade View Post
    Glyphs are selling so-so if you're willing to sell them cheap(ish).
    Awhile back I decided to contact the glyph sellers asking to join up and white list each other. If after a week our gold income didn't improved we'd go back to normal. One said yes, another joined after we pushed him around.

    We post one glyph at a time and buy out glyphs under our threshold or in short supply. We don't sell 200 glyphs a day, but we also don't need to re-post 20 times a day. We will purchase each others glyphs and cod them back if it's below the fallback price.

    Before we started.



    A day after.



    This doesn't work on all servers. Everyone on my alt server were very rude. If they have noticed that you often undercut them and are getting tired of re-posting all day, it may work on your server.

    Even if you can't find a group of people, try overcutting and posting with a higher threshold.

    Cheers.

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    Haha Nelsh, I love it. 100% illegal in RL, but in WoW 100% genius!

    Little followup report from this morning, trade mats are moving a little better by the afternoon, I'm going to stand firm on my prices as the reservior drys up. Aeg is also 100% correct. I've leveled about 8 characters to at least 70 and every single one of them didn't have enough material to skillup my crafting profession before I had outleveled the materials I could gather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fade View Post
    Haha Nelsh, I love it. 100% illegal in RL, but in WoW 100% genius!
    It would only be illegal if every business in a specific market conspired to do it. If only 2 or 3 out of 10 did, it would be perfectly legal in most states.

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    Shatter Abyss if they're cheap (Thanks Zoxy), sell the outcome. Buy cheap Frozen Orbs and Eternal Fires, resell.
    I've not done much other than this at the moment to be honest as it's low input and reasonable profit.
    With Orbs selling so cheap there's very little to lose.
    I used to run a blog called Just Another Goblin

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