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    Glyph Reseller: Shock and Awe strategy

    FIRST: You need to know that you shouldn't use this all the time as your primary posting habit...in my opinion if you let one posting habit define your behavior in the market then you are dead. The golden rule is: Be unpredictable.

    I use this once maybe twice every 2 months and it seems to work best on a medium or low population server...but don't be discouraged as I see no reason this wouldn't work on super high pop or hyper competitive servers.

    You have tried camping, walling, deep undercut, monopolist, and market crasher. If you haven't tried being a reseller/resetter then this thread is for you. This strategy is probably not new...but I don't care.

    I'll give example gold amounts. Assume a glyph costs 15g to make and market highs have been in the 200-300g range on your server.

    Step 1: Reseller is not for the feint of heart and this particular strategy requires that you know all glyphs. I also recommend that you keep a large inventory of every profitable glyph...9-20 of each glyph should do it. I also don't cancel and repost all until I'm ready to let the market breathe...besides it takes time to cancel/repost all...just get a bigger inventory.

    Step 2: Search wowhead for glyphs learned from Book of Glyph Mastery or import these lists

    Step 3: Add these glyphs to an Auctionator shopping list...when you're done you should be looking at 2 shopping lists. This will be annoying to setup but you only have to do it once. I'll refer to these as the "Research List," from now on.

    Update: Please check my posts below to find the import lists...If you notice something is not there let me know.

    Step 4: Crash the market (every glyph) to barely profitable (1-4g profit) while your competition is online. You want them to take the bait and post below you. If you are lucky then there is already a race to the bottom happening on your server and you don't even need to crash it.

    Step 5: After they have posted below you...then you should run your Research lists. I prefer to do this when they are offline and at a time of day they normally don't post. However you CAN run this list while they are still online.

    Step 6: How to use the list: You are looking for low price glyphs. If a glyph costs 15g to make then you are looking for 15-20g or cheaper. You are also looking for huge gaps in the next highest prices or NO next higher prices which happens when your opponents are not using an "auto fallback," and can allow you to do a full price reset.

    Examples:

    6 glyphs are listed at 18g and 1 listed at 200-300g? Buy the 6 and cancel your 2 posted. Move on to the next glyph in your list.

    4 glyphs listed at 18g and several other glyph posters listed at 30-70g...then it's not worth it. We are looking for glyphs that we can reset to market highs or slightly higher than that...reset to 30-70g..no thanks.

    One glyph listed at 32g and 2 others listed at 200-300g. This part is up to you. Here you are giving your opponent a bit of profit...but is it worth it to you to pay 32g for a reset of that glyph? Maybe. Tread lightly here or you can get burned.

    Step 7: Keep running through your research list. Over time you will get pretty good at spotting the easy resets...I guarantee it's faster than crafting these glyphs on your own. Auctionator makes it simple to buy an item and cancel that same item posted by you all on the same page...then you hit the back button and continue down the list.

    Step 8: Go pick up your glyphs from the mail ready to reset to market highs or higher. If you were able to COMPLETELY reset several glyphs set your max post to something ridiculous. You wouldn't believe the sales I've gotten at 489g and 589g single glyphs. One sale of a 489g glyph just paid for 22 glyphs that I bought at 20g each. (after 10% ah cut)

    Step 9: Competition posts again...run the cycle again, go back to step 4. If you REALLY want to rub it in his face and force him to craft hard then you MUST run this cycle for weeks or a month. You will still be wildly profitable during this time if you are smart about the times of day you reset prices.

    If you just want to make a small impact and cash in..it's possible but this won't put a dent in your opponents inventory or force him/her to craft harder. If you MUST then I recommend then you keep the market low for about 3-4 days so that you can pick up some great deals.

    Why do this?

    AH is PVP it's that simple. I've forced people to craft for such low profit for so long they shit themselves and leave the market. You have SLIGHTLY lower risk in this reseller because you are only buying out glyphs that are crafted with research...levelers and random new guys don't stand a chance. Also this list is smaller than you might think which forces your opponent to be constantly running out of very specific glyphs...you are putting a high artificial demand on those and cashing in.

    You limit how much gold and time you spend because you only have a list of research glyphs to buy. There are ways to totally reset every glyph but what a hassle and time consuming. I don't like to cancel/repost all until I'm ready to stop the glyph reseller strat. By the time you're done with the strat some or most research glyphs will look like 200-400g and the rest of the market will look like 20-30g. It's OKAY to let the rest of the market reset itself naturally.
    Last edited by Abeni; October 31st, 2011 at 07:19 PM.

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    I was sort of doing something similar on my server...undercutting, resetting then reposting to make some ninja sales @ my 300g per glyph price.

    Didn't really come up with a system or a name for it though... kudos

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    Thanks for the post.
    I added all the glyphs in auctionator - was a bit of work but its done.
    However, when I do a search on that list there is more than a dozen glyphs of which the addon says none are on the AH, while if I do a manual scan on the glyph, it shows mine.

    Anyone resolve for that ? Never had it before although it might be the same thing why I had to run TSM three times to make sure all the undercut stuff was really removed. This only happens when dealing with LOTS of searches ( like inscription ).

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    Nice post, great way to demonstrate examples of more intricate or advanced AH strategies.

    Hope you make some more similar posts in the future, could maybe include some screenshots etc too
    You could also maybe post your Auctionator glyph shopping list for others to use too.
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    Maybe think about what other kinds of lists you can do...glyphs with specific inks? Popular glyphs? I still like the research glyph reseller best but there is always room to experiment.

    @Belmorn: I've had this same problem happen to me but only when I try to add several different items. Like I had a list of different cloth, different bags made with the cloth, different bolts of cloth and auctionator never showed some items. Try doing an Auctionator search for: Glyph of

    If the glyphs you were having problems with show up then its something wrong with the list. My guess is that some glyphs have very similar names and it's getting confused. It might require you to put quotes around certain glyphs to make sure its picking up the full glyph name.

    An example is if I search for netherweave then it will give me everything in the AH that starts with the word netherweave. If I search for "Netherweave Bag" Then I only get the bags.
    Last edited by Abeni; October 31st, 2011 at 01:35 PM.

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    @Belmorn which glyphs are giving you problems specifically? I just noticed my own shopping list has "Glyph of slow" in quotes which means way back when I set this up it was having problems confusing it with glyph of Slow Fall.

    Also I need to update my auctionator...apparently I never updated and all I have is "Delete List." Instead of "Manage List," to export/import.

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    Here are the lists to import...if you notice something is missing please let me know. These are most of the glyphs learned from Book of Glyph Mastery.

    Also if you have problems with some of the glyphs in the list you should try adding quotes around the troublemakers and run your search again.


    *** -Research and Book-
    Glyph of Aquatic Form
    Glyph of Arcane Barrage
    Glyph of Arcane Brilliance
    Glyph of Aspect of the Pack
    Glyph of Astral Recall
    Glyph of Barkskin
    Glyph of Battle
    Glyph of Beacon of Light
    Glyph of Berserker Rage
    Glyph of Blessing of Kings
    Glyph of Blessing of Might
    Glyph of Blurred Speed
    Glyph of Challenging Roar
    Glyph of Conjuring
    Glyph of Curse of Exhaustion
    Glyph of Dash
    Glyph of Death Gate
    Glyph of Demoralizing Shout
    Glyph of Distract
    Glyph of Drain Soul
    Glyph of Enslave Demon
    Glyph of Fading
    Glyph of Feign Death
    Glyph of Fortitude
    Glyph of Ghost Wolf
    Glyph of Insight
    Glyph of Justice
    Glyph of Lay on Hands
    Glyph of Lesser Proportion
    Glyph of Levitate
    Glyph of Mark of the Wild
    Glyph of Pick Lock
    Glyph of Pick Pocket
    Glyph of Poisons
    Glyph of Renewed Life
    Glyph of Revive Pet
    Glyph of Safe Fall
    Glyph of Scare Beast
    Glyph of Shackle Undead
    Glyph of Shadow Protection
    Glyph of Slow Fall
    Glyph of the Arctic Wolf
    Glyph of the Monkey
    Glyph of the Penguin
    Glyph of Thorns
    Glyph of Truth
    Glyph of Unburdened Rebirth
    Glyph of Unending Breath
    Glyph of Water Breathing
    Glyph of Water Walking

    The 2nd List:

    *** -Research and Book2-
    "Glyph of Berserk"
    "Glyph of Slow"
    "Glyph of Thunder"
    Glyph of Bladestorm
    Glyph of Chaos Bolt
    Glyph of Chimera Shot
    Glyph of Cloak of Shadows
    Glyph of Dancing Rune Weapon
    Glyph of Deep Freeze
    Glyph of Demonic Circle
    Glyph of Dispersion
    Glyph of Divine Accuracy
    Glyph of Divine Plea
    Glyph of Explosive Shot
    Glyph of Fan of Knives
    Glyph of Feral Spirit
    Glyph of Hammer of the Righteous
    Glyph of Haunt
    Glyph of Hex
    Glyph of Holy Shock
    Glyph of Howling Blast
    Glyph of Hungering Cold
    Glyph of Ice Barrier
    Glyph of Kill Shot
    Glyph of Killing Spree
    Glyph of Life Tap
    Glyph of Master's Call
    Glyph of Metamorphosis
    Glyph of Mirror Image
    Glyph of Penance
    Glyph of Raptor Strike
    Glyph of Riptide
    Glyph of Salvation
    Glyph of Savage Roar
    Glyph of Scatter Shot
    Glyph of Shadow Dance
    Glyph of Shadowflame
    Glyph of Shield of the Righteous
    Glyph of Shield Wall
    Glyph of Shockwave
    Glyph of Soul Link
    Glyph of Spell Reflection
    Glyph of Spirit Tap
    Glyph of Starsurge
    Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem
    Glyph of Templar's Verdict
    Glyph of Tricks of the Trade
    Glyph of Vendetta
    Glyph of Wild Growth
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    I already fixed the problem myself here with glyphs not showing, apparently int he shopping list its case sensitive, so you really need to make 100% sure that all capitals are capitals just like in the glpyh description.

    I found 54 from book research and something like 74 from northrend research, so you should have 3 lists or your already pre filtered the really crap ones out of this ?

    Last thing I would remove glyph of shieldwall from that list, +20% damage reduction for a 2 min ( i.e. double ) CD ? Not worth it although the latter is debatable if you make one sell at 300g happen. However, this strategy is based around flipping glyphs in a very lucrative way which Im under the impression you assume you should be able to make like 1 sell every two days, which you wont see with a glyph like that. Sorry if this is derailing , I dont want to start a discussion about the viability of each and every glyph in the game here.

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    I'm looking into what's missing in the list...if you're right then I'm definitely missing something big. possibly missing a glyph or 2 in the list as well as it is quite old.

    I'll try and figure out what I'm missing.

    For me I don't care about the quality of glyphs. Anyone else who's sold glyphs long enough knows that every once in a while you get "Class buyers" Meaning the person has gold and doesn't care to look up the quality of the glyphs they are buying...they just buy every glyph they could ever need for their class. To assume every customer is looking up the quality of their glyphs is a bet against the truth. You can remove some if you don't like them...but if you want to build your list around popular glyphs then see Best Choices for Patch 4.2 of World of Warcraft - WoW Popular - Filter by All

    The truth is people don't know what glyphs...gems...(fill in the blank) is good. There is a reason people still buy prismatic gems...because they think that's the only kind of gem that will fit into a prismatic belt socket...lol.

    Update: Ahh I see. When I made the list, I opted to only look at glyphs learned from Book...I think...even then I wonder if I'm missing some

    I think there is still good reason to stick with this list (possibly still book exclusive glyphs in there) but wowhead comments are a mess and i'm trying to figure out if this is still a good thing. I'm more willing to update my original post with "Book" glyphs than I am to suggest 3 or 4 whole lists.

    Okay I've updated the post...if you WANT to really run every research Glyph then build those lists and let us know how it works out...I might even try it myself. I think the reason I only picked book glyphs is because there are still glyphs EXCLUSIVE to books...and research books are a big bottleneck for new comers. Also this list is what 80 some odd glyphs? You get closer to 200 glyphs and you are talking about spending a LOT to reset prices especially if you are dealing with wallers.
    Last edited by Abeni; October 31st, 2011 at 07:37 PM.

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    Nice guide, i dont see these Glyphs on the list that are learned from the Book's.


    Glyph of Berserk
    Glyph of Kill Shot
    Glyph of Killing Spree
    Glyph of Lifetap
    Glyph of Divine Accuracy
    Glyph of Master's Call
    Glyph of Riptide
    Glyph of Slow
    Glyph of Spirit Tap
    Glyph of Thunder
    Glyph of Tricks of the Trade
    Glyph of Vendetta
    Glyph of Wild Growth

 

 

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