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    How have you set your TSM/APM/auction posting mod?

    I'm very interested to know how both veteran & neophyte Goblins have set their TSM/APM/any other auction posting mod you might use.

    For myself, I use TSM, which I love. My categories & the groups therein are still works in progress, in fact it's a bit of a dog's breakfast right now & really does need a shake up. With this mod, I have learnt that it pays to start as you mean to continue and I do wish I had put a little more forethought into my set up before leaping in. Recategorising & regrouping is a fairly big job with mutiple AH posting alts, due to the toon jumping and also because I don't always have the relevant goods on hand for reclassification.

    As it stands right now:



    I would ideally like to have all of my inventory separated into categories according to the profession that produced them, plus another category for flips. However at the moment I have a lot of crafted goods sharing groups with other random goods related only by price.

    The reason I'd like to separate these into more orderly categories and groups is three-fold:

    1) When I need to change a price it's painful to sift through tonnes of goods classified only by price. This would be infinitely easier if my price groups were sorted into more precise categories.
    2) I want different upper limits for different cateogories. Some items you can gouge on if there's no other supply, for others, I've found it to a waste of a deposit to list too high.
    3) I want different size stacks and numbers of stacks for different categories. EG: The stack size & number of auctions I want for volatiles is different to the stack size & number of auctions I want for potions. At the moment these two items, and alot of others share the same groupings. This is my most pressing reason for wanting my groupings & categories to be more precise and is something I hope to rectify this weekend (I can dream XD).

    This isn't something I've seen discussed too much beyond people noting that they don't have their TSM/APM posting optimised yet (most recently in a blog post by Stede) so I'm hoping that we'll see a range of different posting mod set-up styles to inspire & influence those of us who are in the process of trying to optimise our own set-ups. How do you set yours up & what's your reasoning for doing it that way? Do you have any plans for change or theories as to an Ultimate set up?

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    I setup groups likes this;
    .Numer of auctions. .minimum price. .maximum price.

    So some typical groups would look like this;
    1x 00001-00089g
    1x 14999-19999g
    2x 00002-00149g
    5x 00149-00249g
    9+ 00001-00010g

    This way they get sorted nicely, its easy to find and correct things. I have 37 different groups like that. I just imported them from APM, so I have no categories..yet.

    If I want to change something, its easy to find the price range I have posted in recently by dropping the item into "Auctionator - Sell" and looking at the "Other" tab. I usually have ~200 different items @ ah all the time(no glyphs included), and making a seperate group for every one, is not an option atm, 37 groups is alot easier for me.

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    It's a bit late to be messing around chopping up screenshots so i may get around to posting some another day but for me i pretty much have an individual group for each thing i sell as i find it much easier when it comes to adjusting prices.
    My main exceptions are items with a single base material such as gems where i group them into "blue" "red" etc.

    Overall though i would expect almost every set up to be quite individual due as much to what people deal in and how they deal in it as much as the addon still being quite young.

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    Mine is roughly like this:

    (Category) Chants
    (All the chants I deal with in individual groups)

    (Category)Glyphs
    (Groups sorted by ink)

    (Category)Tailoring
    (Each item in individual groups)

    (Unorganized groups)
    (Metas - used for meta gem cuts)
    (Cut gems - All six colors of cuts. I use the same fallback no matter the color, and the only minimum I care about is the vendor price.)

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    Sponsor, thats a great idea to have the zeros in front to keep the prices in ascending order, easy change to make in TSM too, I'm definitely adopting that idea. Thankyou. The Auctionator idea though doesn't work for me though, once I've narrowed down the price range there's still about *200 items to sift through in some of my groups, they're in alphabetical order which helps, but still a pain.

    Fluffy, Yer, I agree different people are likely to have entirely different set ups, which is why I'm so interested to see what ideas people come up with. I like your idea of individual items being in individual groups for simplest price adjustment, for some of my inventory that might just be the best approach for me too. I do believe I'll be incorparating a little of that into my TSM rejig.

    Extreme - Your sorting ethos is much like the one I am slowly developing. Categorising by Profession, having groups within that as individual items in individual groups, or price groups, depending on what is most appropriate for a given item in my server's market.

    Edited to add:
    * could be gross exaggeration, but it feels like that sometimes XD
    Last edited by Mokky; March 18th, 2011 at 11:49 PM.

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    Tsm catsWoWScrnShot_031911_000356.jpg

    I've just built as I go. I keep glyphs organized by ink. Other items are just put together as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokky View Post
    Sponsor, thats a great idea to have the zeros in front to keep the prices in ascending order, easy change to make in TSM too, I'm definitely adopting that idea. Thankyou. The Auctionator idea though doesn't work for me though, once I've narrowed down the price range there's still about *200 items to sift through in some of my groups, they're in alphabetical order which helps, but still a pain.
    Nice, glad to be of help.
    About the Auctionator thing... I noticed something in my tooltip when mouseovering some items today, TSM lets me know what group an item belongs to DD I dont know if this is a new feature, or if its been there a while, but in any case, its a very nice feature!
    It looks like this; "Auctioning Group: -name of the group-"

    Offtopic;
    I do miss one thing with TSM though, beeing able to copy groups. "Inventorium" addon has this feature, and the groups are set up exactly like APM/TSM. The global settings doesnt work for this, as you can imagine, since when making a new enchanting group, you would just copy an old enchanting group and edit it, and same with an inscription group etc. It shouldn't be hard to implement this, since it kinda looks like "Inventorium" has already done the coding, just copypaste abit
    Last edited by Sponsor; March 19th, 2011 at 11:41 AM.

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    Really like the idea of this thread!

    I've never even thought of separating glyphs based on ink. I have a glyph category which I add all my glyph groups into, one group per glyph. Since inscription is a new business for me I decided to start from scratch and test out TSMs pricing method.

    I think it is working well so far. I have my category threshold set to 110% of the AucDB craft cost. I also only craft glyphs with 30% or more profit so that eliminates some of the error as well. I did notice this works better if you do this from the character that can actually make the item, so whenever I learn a new glyph I make it and add it into the group(even if its a loss to make, it lets the DB know that)


    For my Enchanting I still use a manual pricing method, taken from the spreadsheets I made on them. TSM pricing doesn't work well for this market as even now there are still too many people leveling and posting for stupid prices 1/10 the cost. I usually post all my auctions at the fallback(2xnormal) and every few weeks or when there are few on the AH I buy up all the cheap scrolls. If even one of my fallback priced ones sell It usually pays for the price of all the ones I bought.

    I'll try and take some SS's later. I would love a critique!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponsor View Post
    I setup groups likes this;
    .Numer of auctions. .minimum price. .maximum price.

    So some typical groups would look like this;
    1x 00001-00089g
    1x 14999-19999g
    2x 00002-00149g
    5x 00149-00249g
    9+ 00001-00010g
    I recently changed to;
    .Numer of auctions. .minimum price. .maximum price.

    01x 00001-00089g
    01x 14999-19999g
    02x 00002-00149g
    05x 00149-00249g
    99x 00001-00010g

    Having number of auctions only from 1-9+ was abit constricting, I might change to 001x to 999x later, but I have no need for it atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaleyl View Post
    For my Enchanting I still use a manual pricing method, taken from the spreadsheets I made on them. TSM pricing doesn't work well for this market as even now there are still too many people leveling and posting for stupid prices 1/10 the cost.
    I have suggested to TSM that it should be possible to make groups that doesn't post, just cancels if its inside the pricerange and beeing undercut. This would make it a lot easier to avoid cancelling when people post @ 1/10th of the price, and also open up for manually posting those scrolls.
    Last edited by Sponsor; March 21st, 2011 at 08:30 AM.

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    Gotta reiterate how much I really love that idea Sponsor, one thing I'm going to add to it is the amount per stack. I haven't exactly decided on the final format yet but
    it will likely be along these lines:

    .minimum price. .maximum price. .Numer of auctions. .stack size.

    00011-00070g 5 3
    00011-00070g 5 10


    One of the really nice features of TSM is that it is so easy to rename groups, so this bit at least is painless.

 

 

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