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    Posting mats as singles is costing you business

    This is part gripe, part public service announcement. Many people, especially with prices so crazy right now at the start of the expansion are posting 60-80 items as singles. Bars, ore, herbs, everything. This used to be a reasonable idea to lock opponents off the first screen, make yourself more visible, whatever.

    Things have changed, however. Now, addons no longer allow people to purchase all 60 or your herbs at the top with a single click. If I need 80 herbs, I'm looking at my list in AuctionLite and thinking, "Jesus, Joseph and Mary!" (my remote Irish heritage talking). I say this because I am going to have to sit here and click over and over and over again to buy up your (stupid) auctions. Then I notice that there are 10 groups of 20 just slightly higher priced, right underneath you. Now this may be less economical on my part, but I'm giving my business to someone who didn't just irritate me.

    Let's suppose, for arguments sake, you have a lock on the (dumb) market and there are only (idiotic) singles posted. Now I have to buy your (ridiculous) auctions. So I start clicking (mindlessly). I go to the mailbox, wait for 60 (irritating) mails to come across. I'm probably in (lagtastic) SW because I'm between doing other things so meanwhile water is boiling, grass is growing and paint is drying. I start to walk away and I have 57 rather than 60 because of a misclick, bug in my addon or someone buying a couple out from under me. GAH! Now I have to go back and buy 3 more.

    But, this is only the beginning. If your customer is on the Remote Auction House, it becomes much simpler, there IS NO SALE. That person can only make 200 transactions a day. Do you really believe they are going to waste sixty of them to buy your stuff? Not to mention, the click routine is even MORE painful. Click "Buy", click "Confirm", try to click the next "Buy" before something refreshes and it moves on the page, miss the click and hit "Bid" on accident, accidentally "Confirm" bid, deal with "Auction not found" over and over because you already clicked that one, etc, etc. Personally, I'm not going to put myself through that even if I do have transactions to spare. I will buy someone else's auctions or try again later.

    So please, for you, for me, for my (rapidly diminishing) sanity. Post stacks. Or at least post a mix.

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    Auctionator is a rather light-weight addon that should very much take the pain out of buying individual stacks. I use it along with auctionner and there is no problem at all. As for posting stacks of 1 versus more, I tend to do a mix; but what I've noticed, and I have no idea as to why, is that my single greater cosmic essences seem to just sell better. So while I do have stacks of 2 and 10, I tend to post few of them as they don't sell as well.

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    I understand what you're saying. I am doing the same and ignoring single stacks. While that addon is good Belze, it doesn't stop the fact that you have to click 60 times to buy 60 pieces of Volatile life. I'll gladly pay extra for a 1 click purchase.
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    I had the misfortune of buying 800 Savage Leathers yesterday.... with 800 clicks.
    When I needed more, I happily paid 2g per savage leather, for the person selling stacks of 20.

    /signed
    Last edited by Lofty; December 10th, 2010 at 04:30 PM.

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    Another thing to think about is the time it takes. Just doing some napkin math here so bear with me:

    It will probably take me about a 1 minute to buy 3 stacks of 20 and get them from a mailbox. On the otherhand, buying 60 singles and getting them from the mail will probably take 3 minutes and possibly more. How much is my 2 minutes worth? If I say I can make 300 gold an hour, which is extremely conservative consider I caught 30 in less than 20 minutes last night. They are selling for 20g each which would be 1800g/hr. But I digress. Back to 300g/hr, that means that 2 minutes is worth 10g to me. In cavefish hours, it's more like 60g.

    So, the question I have to ask myself is: Are you saving me more than what I could be making? Well, are you? Punk?

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    macros are your friend.

    firstly you can discover the name of any button in the UI or in any addon by using /framestack

    this pops up a window telling you the name of any button you are mousingover.

    the auctionator buy button happens to be called Atr_Buy_Confirm_OKBut

    Setup a macro that looks like:

    /click Atr_Buy_Confirm_OKBut

    and then bind a scrollwheel to it on the mouse using bartender or similar you can bind something like alt-scrollup and alt-scrolldown to your new macro.

    Now click the auction you want to buy, left click once within the popup window that auctionator pops up, and then hold down alt and scroll wheel backwards and forwards quickly.

    grats on saving yourself much time and aimless clicking. Time is money friend.

    Oh and you should post a mix of stacks and singles imo, I usually price my singles a little higher than the stacks to encourage people to buy more.

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    That's not the point, the general public, or I for that matter, will prefer paying extra instead of buying some retardedly posted 300 ores posted in stacks of one.
    And neither will they use some macro

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    I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Yeah, there are times when the "eaches" is a pain, but honestly using your theory of people willing to pay "slightly more" to get a bigger stack also holds true the other way around. If I only need ONE item, I am willing to pay more to buy ONE than slightly less to buy 2, 3, 4, or more. I so agree that the 200 auction limit on the Remote AH makes it better to get the 20 stack, but generally I think you are missing out if you DON'T post individual items.

    How, I DO agree it's stupid in most cases to post 50+ individual items. But, mainly because all you need is one well stocked undercutter, and none of your auctions will sell, costing you the deposit fee. A BETTER idea would be to go ahead and post those individual auctions, but only post a small batch, say 10 or so. if you do get undercut, you can then counter with 10 more. if you "blow your wad", you're done. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbare View Post
    That's not the point, the general public, or I for that matter, will prefer paying extra instead of buying some retardedly posted 300 ores posted in stacks of one.
    who knows what goes through the minds of the general public. I post uncut greens gems in singles and I price them into the market in the middle of the page of auctions as I know demand is high and they will sell. Quite often mine sell and other cheaper auctions posted also in singles don't ... *shrug*


    Quote Originally Posted by Namssob View Post
    If I only need ONE item, I am willing to pay more to buy ONE than slightly less to buy 2, 3, 4, or more. I so agree that the 200 auction limit on the Remote AH makes it better to get the 20 stack, but generally I think you are missing out if you DON'T post individual items.
    agree 100% - post some singles make the singles more expensive per item than stacks, people who want value/to save time will buy stacks and you'll sell more volume, people who want exactly as many as they need to do whatever will buy them in singles. Not posting any singles will cost you money as surely as posting everything in singles will.

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    I saw a couple instances today where there were 200 singles on the RAH so I couldn't even get to anything in larger stacks. I don't have a problem with posting singles. I have a problem with posting 50-60 singles and no stacks at all.

 

 

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